nerf the M18

[bareq]

the tank was never nerfed, but moved up the BR, which does nothing as people still play this tank on 7+ BR and get kills easly because its OP, the tank speed/acceleration needs to be NERFED

[RustyNail]

Napoleon BornToParty の投稿を引用：

no need to nerf m18
they need to nerf obj 279

Watch Dollarplays video where he destroys 269's from various angles using the (6.7) T34's HE round. That kind of play is perhaps beyond the skill of many; but he shows just how vulnerable the 269 actually is. Disclaimer: I don't have the 269. It didn't interest me; so I didn't grind the event.

[NapoleonBornToParty]

RustyNail の投稿を引用：

Watch Dollarplays video where he destroys 269's from various angles using the (6.7) T34's HE round. That kind of play is perhaps beyond the skill of many; but he shows just how vulnerable the 269 actually is. Disclaimer: I don't have the 269. It didn't interest me; so I didn't grind the event.

True
Reality is, in BR <8.7 match 1 279 can one shot 5/6 enemies, for comparison, take a look at T55AM1 or T64A their stock round are way "weaker" than 279 and they can be penned frontally, but 362mm APHE ? in 8.7? and frontally immune to all conventional and most APDS ammo? 279 should be moved to 9.0 at least

[Colonel Ronson]

No need to need just be more aware of your surroundings and try to think like M18 players, because a lot of them use the same tactics repeatedly on certain maps

[Obi-Wan]

Almost everyone replying to this thread called the OP a noob for not being attentive...have you actually noticed how small that thing is? Was driving towards some buildings to get some sidescraping in my Tiger and an m18 was hiding behind a corner, and the corner wasn't even THAT big. I looked there, saw nothing. About 5 seconds later I'm dead without even being able to see him. If I was driving a baguette panzer 57 or any other tank with thermals I'd have seen the white from his exhaust, but no, I was driving a Tiger, no thermals for me.

RustyNail の投稿を引用：

Napoleon BornToParty の投稿を引用：

no need to nerf m18
they need to nerf obj 279

Watch Dollarplays video where he destroys 269's from various angles using the (6.7) T34's HE round. That kind of play is perhaps beyond the skill of many; but he shows just how vulnerable the 269 actually is. Disclaimer: I don't have the 269. It didn't interest me; so I didn't grind the event.

Vulnerable? The 279? NO. Leo 1 APDS rounds will do almost nothing to a 279...I mean, you have small chance to kill his driver but that's kind of it....to kill a 279 with a Leo 1 APDS round you'd need to kill his driver, take out his gun then his tracks and keep killing the driver, something you can't afford to waste time on at that BR as most tanks are very fast and somebody will come and help the 279 shortly after you shoot him. Heat is a guaranteed driver kill and a 50/50 when shooting the frontal plate to the side enough that you'll get the ammo but not enough to hit a stupid angle. Haven't grinded APFSDS yet on the A1A1. The turret is a no go for any dart with less than 400mm pen.

[Moglox]

Look like we triggered some peoples

[Suthirak_D42]

R3:OP!!!!!!

[Bobby]

lol no, ive killed many a foreign hellcat with a .50cal, if they flank you, theyre doing their job

[Gjerrigknarken]

CaptainSpacetime の投稿を引用：

I'll take OP is a german main for 1000 alex

Bet he just researched and bought the tiger 1

[The King of Spades]

Gjerrigknarken の投稿を引用：

CaptainSpacetime の投稿を引用：

I'll take OP is a german main for 1000 alex

Bet he just researched and bought the tiger 1

Tiger 1 is one of the best tanks in WT, if you know how to use it. Germany 5.3 is one of the best BRs for RB hands down.

[YUNG_BRUH]

bareq の投稿を引用：

the tank was never nerfed, but moved up the BR, which does nothing as people still play this tank on 7+ BR and get kills easly because its OP, the tank speed/acceleration needs to be NERFED

GIT GUD XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[bareq]

what use of "knowing you surroundings" and "getting good" if you cant even catch the thing within sight while turning the slow turret and tank at the same time? its too quick, that i had to play cat and mouse with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing driving an m41 around the building and still cant catch the bugger, until his teammates arrived and ripped me a new one,
the fact that the tank barley has armor to stop 7.92 which most german tanks use, is what makes it impossible to 1 shot unless you hit the ammo, because the round explosive fuse wont activate with its paper armor, its actually an advantage to have thin armor, because other tanks will need 2-3 shots to finish you off, the tank makes no sense that on most winning games theres italian m18s lifting the team up
throwing insults around without providing any useful discussion wont help your case
im currently grinding the chinese tech tree(has a combo of best russian and american tanks, including m18) so ill play the m18 soon and update you on how it feels dominating the battlefield, hell i might even start saying it doesnt need nerfing just so it can keep going under the gaijin radar and i can keep getting outrageous amounts of kills with it.

[Depression_pills]

bareq の投稿を引用：

what use of "knowing you surroundings" and "getting good" if you cant even catch the thing within sight while turning the slow turret and tank at the same time? its too quick, that i had to play cat and mouse with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing driving an m41 around the building and still cant catch the bugger, until his teammates arrived and ripped me a new one,
the fact that the tank barley has armor to stop 7.92 which most german tanks use, is what makes it impossible to 1 shot unless you hit the ammo, because the round explosive fuse wont activate with its paper armor, its actually an advantage to have thin armor, because other tanks will need 2-3 shots to finish you off, the tank makes no sense that on most winning games theres italian m18s lifting the team up
throwing insults around without providing any useful discussion wont help your case
im currently grinding the chinese tech tree(has a combo of best russian and american tanks, including m18) so ill play the m18 soon and update you on how it feels dominating the battlefield, hell i might even start saying it doesnt need nerfing just so it can keep going under the gaijin radar and i can keep getting outrageous amounts of kills with it.

the longer you play the more you realize that speed, agility, and firepower matters more. Playing sluggish tanks is about thinking ahead of the battle like expecting enemy tanks to pass through this area and paying attention to the map for spotted enemies and teammates getting killed.

[Obi-Wan]

bareq の投稿を引用：

what use of "knowing you surroundings" and "getting good" if you cant even catch the thing within sight while turning the slow turret and tank at the same time? its too quick, that i had to play cat and mouse with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing driving an m41 around the building and still cant catch the bugger, until his teammates arrived and ripped me a new one,
the fact that the tank barley has armor to stop 7.92 which most german tanks use, is what makes it impossible to 1 shot unless you hit the ammo, because the round explosive fuse wont activate with its paper armor, its actually an advantage to have thin armor, because other tanks will need 2-3 shots to finish you off, the tank makes no sense that on most winning games theres italian m18s lifting the team up
throwing insults around without providing any useful discussion wont help your case
im currently grinding the chinese tech tree(has a combo of best russian and american tanks, including m18) so ill play the m18 soon and update you on how it feels dominating the battlefield, hell i might even start saying it doesnt need nerfing just so it can keep going under the gaijin radar and i can keep getting outrageous amounts of kills with it.

Thin armor hullbreaks as soon as you hit a component like the engine, though HEAT is the most likely round to do that.

[halolo39]

The King of Spades の投稿を引用：

Tiger 1 is one of the best tanks in WT, if you know how to use it. Germany 5.3 is one of the best BRs for RB hands down.

yes Germs at 5.3 is the best because all the inattentive players got dunked by all the shermans and M18, now we have tiger 1 AND panther at 5.3 whilst the comparatively bad sherman 76 and jumbo goes to 5.7 or higher.

[bareq]

halolo39 の投稿を引用：

The King of Spades の投稿を引用：

Tiger 1 is one of the best tanks in WT, if you know how to use it. Germany 5.3 is one of the best BRs for RB hands down.

yes Germs at 5.3 is the best because all the inattentive players got dunked by all the shermans and M18, now we have tiger 1 AND panther at 5.3 whilst the comparatively bad sherman 76 and jumbo goes to 5.7 or higher.

you still have m18 at 5.7 which still destroys at 6.7...
a nerf isnt putting m18 up the battlerating, a nerf is lowering the speed/acceleration to a reasonable amount
when the italian fast lunchbox came everyone started whining about it, despite the fact that it only has a machine gun,not a tank gun like the m18 has,
but then the same people defend the m18? why? isnt that hypocritical...