Will be there T34 - 85 nerf?

[[U.S.M.]HunkUmbrella]

I would like to get answer on this. Cause richochet or not penetrating at 200 meter from 17 pounder gun is not a rare but often situation, even with APDS loaded, i dont mention about frustration of not penetration on stock shells.
This is just a small example of what happens oftenly https://youtu.be/A1OkPLD36Dg?t=2m54s
And their ammunition detonates very rare, they are like made of wood.
Lots of soviet players use stock shell where most of TNT used in, but they just dont denotate on hit anyway.
For example German Tigers ammunition just get blown from the first side shot.
Sometimes 5 or more shots are needed to fire in its side armor, on single t34-85 to kill it.
In US/Brits vs Soviets or Soviets/Germany its often been seen, when just Soviets rush with their t34-85 wiping out everything.

So are you planning any T34-85s nerfs? Cause it is unreal to have that richochet and non pen situation when its max armor reach 90mm and it can take APDS with 200mm penetration, 17 pounder rounds with 50% chance of richochet (official forum information) and even german greater rounds.
T34-85 has a good armor - gun - mobility, I dont understand, why you make it total OP with your new sloping armor calculation system!?
Those soviets who use it, dont try even play, they just rush and that their game tactics is all about.
If you need more proofs, i can easily get them and post.

[Arterion]

As much as I'd like to see some small nerfs to some russian ammo types (because the fact I can 1 shot anything with them without trying is sad), I don't think it'll happen. Infact, someonw will probably come and tell me that russian ammo was 10/10 best ammo of war or something. But no, no nerfs.

[[U.S.M.]HunkUmbrella]

引用自 Panzerkampfwagen：

As much as I'd like to see some small nerfs to some russian ammo types (because the fact I can 1 shot anything with them without trying is sad), I don't think it'll happen. Infact, someonw will probably come and tell me that russian ammo was 10/10 best ammo of war or something. But no, no nerfs.

Lol, but as sad as true. I dont know why devs in last time apply changes when soviets player are whining about everything OP except themselves.
When brits came out, soviets start to cry that they are op, the guys who didn't even play as brits or germans even dont closly know, what is a pain to play vs t34-85, t44 and others
Their sloping armor is unreal mess, and devs must do something about this.

[puct]

I am clueless.

[CoreB]

I rarely have a problem with my tiger H1 and the 88 goes straight through

[Foxtrot39]

The russian got something special here with the current bounce mechanism

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[kiro the avenger!]

引用自 Segregationist：

I agree it could use an armor nerf. But it's gun I have no issue with. It was really powerful in reality.

its a question of BR not physcial stats
its 0.4 BR less than a Panther D and superior in most way. to say nothing of the poor Panthers A, F and G :P

[sgtmelin]

its have a great gun. But bounce of it? not my experience...once they see me im dead. allways! even right in the front armor..ever time. and if i not die of the first shoot..the tank are useless and cant defent when i get the second and die. right in the front armor. all tanks typs kills me like that. so nerf that tank...no thanks, its is crap as it is. beside the gun

[Guara Ookami]

the T34-85 have a weakness they have the turret travessal ring out if u shoot it u will probably kill it

[[U.S.M.]HunkUmbrella]

引用自 Segregationist：

I agree it could use an armor nerf. But it's gun I have no issue with. It was really powerful in reality.

I didnt said about gun nerf, I said that tank is good itself with its gun and mobility, but devs made it op with this new sloping armor calculating system.

[[U.S.M.]HunkUmbrella]

引用自 Segregationist：

thats true. but i dont think its armor is particularly realistic no matter what br you put it at. a 17 pounder bouncing off at such an angle shown in the video is kind of silly.

And i was using APDS round more then 170mm penetration on these distances, you didnt try to penetrate it with stock shells - this is hell and madness.

[t i n y ツ]

引用自 U.S.M.HunkUmbrella：

引用自 Segregationist：

I agree it could use an armor nerf. But it's gun I have no issue with. It was really powerful in reality.

I didnt said about gun nerf, I said that tank is good itself with its gun and mobility, but devs made it op with this new sloping armor calculating system.

In reality it wasn't that OP as it's portrayed in the game. Sure the calibers are large but they had huge problems with low velocity and inaccuracy throughout the war.

Another thing is that since we all know the T34-85 uses sloped armor, IF a projectile penetrates its far more likely that it causes catastrophic damage with the fuel and ammo stored inside such a small space (check for images yourself, it's VERY small - another reason for the long reload times of the russian tanks).

But of course, reality vs a arcade game like this is very different since Gaijin doesn't accept valid sources like the panther manual for the german crewmembers - but themself keep sekrit dokuments as proof.

[WhiskeyJim68]

I get eaten alive by 17 pounders with my 34-85. Your doing it wrong.

[Canadian Guitar]

You were shooting upward at a sloped mantlet. The first shot in the where the video starts shows you firing UPWARDS on a sloped piece of armor. IF you look at the armor in game, and give it the angle you put on it, the effectiveness shows it at 205mm+. Factor that in with the chance to ricochet at angles (100% at 18 Degrees) and you can see why you didn't penetrate him. IF you aimed lower, you'd have gone through it no problem, like you did in a later shot that killed the gunner.

[[U.S.M.]HunkUmbrella]

引用自 CaptainTightPants：

I get eaten alive by 17 pounders with my 34-85. Your doing it wrong.

If you watch the start of the video, first T34-85 was killed with one shot penetration on frontal armor. The problems starts with sloped armor calculation. And it happens often, you can test it by yourself.
I play all faction tanks, so I advise you to test Brits vs Soviets on 5.3 and you will understand what I am talking about.

[[U.S.M.]HunkUmbrella]

引用自 Canadian Guitar：

You were shooting upward at a sloped mantlet. The first shot in the where the video starts shows you firing UPWARDS on a sloped piece of armor. IF you look at the armor in game, and give it the angle you put on it, the effectiveness shows it at 205mm+. Factor that in with the chance to ricochet at angles (100% at 18 Degrees) and you can see why you didn't penetrate him. IF you aimed lower, you'd have gone through it no problem, like you did in a later shot that killed the gunner.

I made two shot, and this video is the only one, of lot of others you can make in this game.
Even if we are taking its sloping armor, APDS has like 200mm penetration, where T34-85 on this place has max 90.
And again try playing Brits on 5.3