Heli at the start of the game?

[Nooby]

hello, i see in like every game a MI with rockets at the start of the game. Which Helis can start at the beginning of a game? Cause my german Heli (the first one) is not able to choose at the beginning.

[kamikazi21358]

I believe any helicopter without ATGMs can. ATGMs make helicopters more expensive.

[Sierra-Six-Four]

Sadly any heli with unguided rockets can be first spawned...something i hope they will nerf into hell...
A Heli, no matter what loadout should NOT be able to get out as first spawn, nor after one kill/cap...

[Dadadudu]

Originally posted by Sierra-Six-Four:

Sadly any heli with unguided rockets can be first spawned...something i hope they will nerf into hell...
A Heli, no matter what loadout should NOT be able to get out as first spawn, nor after one kill/cap...

Just use Anti Air champ

[Sierra-Six-Four]

Originally posted by Aaron:

Originally posted by Sierra-Six-Four:

Sadly any heli with unguided rockets can be first spawned...something i hope they will nerf into hell...
A Heli, no matter what loadout should NOT be able to get out as first spawn, nor after one kill/cap...

Just use Anti Air champ

Cap rush --> KA50 spawn, bot confirmed.

[Nooby]

Originally posted by Aaron:

Originally posted by Sierra-Six-Four:

Sadly any heli with unguided rockets can be first spawned...something i hope they will nerf into hell...
A Heli, no matter what loadout should NOT be able to get out as first spawn, nor after one kill/cap...

Just use Anti Air champ

Anti Air? at the beginning of the game? Dont want to stand half the game afk in a bush until a new aircraft spawn. And no, i wont use the AA to fight against Tanks at 2k km distance

[Dadadudu]

But you complain about Helis spawning in at start of the Match? Sound like viable targets for Anti Air and since Gaijin won't change it thats just how you will have to deal with them

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Heli rushing is the only CAS i dont have a problem with because machine guns are actually useful against them

Low flying and slow makes it okay to deal with, but can still catch you off guard if you're not paying attention.

Regular planes and CAS is a different matter though

[Sierra-Six-Four]

Originally posted by Cha Cha Real Rough:

Heli rushing is the only CAS i dont have a problem with because machine guns are actually useful against them

Low flying and slow makes it okay to deal with, but can still catch you off guard if you're not paying attention.

Regular planes and CAS is a different matter though

Until u get spawnrushed by 3 MI-24 with Rockedpods.....3x 128 into a fully packed blob of fresh spawned tanks...gg and have fun with your top mounted MG..
And no, not the first time seeing and recieving that (BTW u don't need to be close to waste someones match with unguided rockets and then your little .50cal is not a thread anymore)

And after someone makes a cap rush, leaves and comes back with a fully stacked KA-50 u just don't do anything against that with those little MGs if they hover 8km away, thats why spawnpoints for guided equiped heli must go up and no Heli should be able to be first spawned also because as soon as those get shot down, u have one less player in your team because he just trow all his spawn points at the beginning of the match being the same as if they just left directly..

[Ulvhamne]

I took down quite a few of the start of match helis with my Lvkv 9040, pretty decent little SPAA, and it can also deal with some light tanks so it's not entirely useless until someone spawns an airplane. Unfortunately, it's all spaded out now and everything else in my lineup also needs some spading so now it doesn't get used much.
On the other hand, I also take down helis with the main gun of MBTs when they are a bit far away (and my MBTs don't have .50 cal MG.

[Sierra-Six-Four]

For how great of anti-air players here comment, i see a huge amount of incompetence ingame where even Radar SPAA don/t know about a helicopter wich i can pinpoint where they are by sound only...

[tythespy]

Originally posted by Nooby:

Originally posted by Aaron:

Just use Anti Air champ

Anti Air? at the beginning of the game? Dont want to stand half the game afk in a bush until a new aircraft spawn. And no, i wont use the AA to fight against Tanks at 2k km distance

This guy is right. Who starts a match with anti-air when there may or may not be any air units until later on? That is a waste of time just waiting. Even then Anti-Air can only pick off a few air units that aren't long distance every few minutes which don't count against the enemy spawn amount. AA are often left vulnerable to attacks and they may not have support or someone to take their place if they die. Its hard to survive bombers out of range or kamikaze who wont lose a spawn life. AA are often next to useless for attacking or defending against tanks or the objective. Battling a light tank vs AA is a gamble. AA are limited in their capabilities to help win the game.

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by tythespy:

Originally posted by Nooby:

Anti Air? at the beginning of the game? Dont want to stand half the game afk in a bush until a new aircraft spawn. And no, i wont use the AA to fight against Tanks at 2k km distance

This guy is right. Who starts a match with anti-air when there may or may not be any air units until later on? That is a waste of time just waiting. Even then Anti-Air can only pick off a few air units that aren't long distance every few minutes which don't count against the enemy spawn amount. AA are often left vulnerable to attacks and they may not have support or someone to take their place if they die. Its hard to survive bombers out of range or kamikaze who wont lose a spawn point. AA are often next to useless for attacking or defending against tanks or the objective. Battling a light tank vs AA is a gamble. AA are limited in their capabilities to help win the game.

squads do, played in a squadron with a guy who mains spaa since about 2015... actually even when hes not he tends to outperform teammates in dedicated AA vehicles with just a roof 50cal because hes got something called skill which seems to be lacking in this playerbase

you dont even need actual spaa to deal with a heli using dumbfire weapons...

[Fal]

Originally posted by tythespy:

Originally posted by Nooby:

Anti Air? at the beginning of the game? Dont want to stand half the game afk in a bush until a new aircraft spawn. And no, i wont use the AA to fight against Tanks at 2k km distance

This guy is right. Who starts a match with anti-air when there may or may not be any air units until later on? That is a waste of time just waiting. Even then Anti-Air can only pick off a few air units that aren't long distance every few minutes which don't count against the enemy spawn amount. AA are often left vulnerable to attacks and they may not have support or someone to take their place if they die. Its hard to survive bombers out of range or kamikaze who wont lose a spawn point. AA are often next to useless for attacking or defending against tanks or the objective. Battling a light tank vs AA is a gamble. AA are limited in their capabilities to help win the game.

with all the light wheeled vechiles running around, spawning as AA is a good option i have more Tank kills than aircraft in my 2S6 by using him as my first spawm

[tythespy]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

squads do, played in a squadron with a guy who mains spaa since about 2015... actually even when hes not he tends to outperform teammates in dedicated AA vehicles with just a roof 50cal because hes got something called skill which seems to be lacking in this playerbase

Not everyone that plays this game has 1,000+ hours into it to master a Free-to-play game while acting like they are in actual combat. It's a game, that's made to be enjoyable and match with players of similar skills level. You shouldn't value video game "skills" over actual real life skills.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by tythespy:

Not everyone that plays this game has 1,000+ hours into it to master a Free-to-play game while acting like they are in actual combat. It's a game, that's made to be enjoyable and match with players of similar skills level. You shouldn't value video game "skills" over actual real life skills.

Sounds like something someone would say if they had a skill issue lol