Am I the only BO 105 player?

[Weltreisender]

I love the Bo 105, mostly bc it is very agile while packing a decent punch, and yet I never see them in battle.

[Shyue Chou]

I have only ever encountered a handful of times in thousands of hours. Not too sure why it is not popular.

[Schublade]

Look , the Bundeswehr was part of an Aliiance. It was built as part of an Alliance - NATO.
And it can't function properly if you are forced in this game to fight against your partners instead of the common enemy.

Imagine the defense budget of Germany if the Bundeswehr was built to fight against every one of it's neighbours.
German Air sucks because it's missing the Airplanes and missiles it would have built if it had to fight the American, British and French Air Forces. So are the Helicopters.

Bo-105 role was Anti Tank, not Anti Air, not Destruction of Ground Anti Air, it simply does not have the missiles with the range needed for this. In a history line where Germany had to fight everybody else it would have, It would look like an Apache, let's call this fictious Bo "Indianer".

So because Germany doesn't get the air cover and the missiles needed that little Bo can't shine in it's role most of the time.

[Eftwyrd]

it wishes it was the ah6 little bird and utterly fails at that

seriously i want to like it but its just not where it needs to be

[DieuDuJambon]

it the only heli i use normaly if i use one

[NIKFS]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schublade:

Look , the Bundeswehr was part of an Aliiance. It was built as part of an Alliance - NATO.
And it can't function properly if you are forced in this game to fight against your partners instead of the common enemy.

Imagine the defense budget of Germany if the Bundeswehr was built to fight against every one of it's neighbours.
German Air sucks because it's missing the Airplanes and missiles it would have built if it had to fight the American, British and French Air Forces. So are the Helicopters.

Bo-105 role was Anti Tank, not Anti Air, not Destruction of Ground Anti Air, it simply does not have the missiles with the range needed for this. In a history line where Germany had to fight everybody else it would have, It would look like an Apache, let's call this fictious Bo "Indianer".

So because Germany doesn't get the air cover and the missiles needed that little Bo can't shine in it's role most of the time.

"was", when did we leave? apart from a couple politicians that feel we'd be stronger by ourselves (yeah good luck) i dont think anyone made plans for leaving said alliance

[Schublade]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von NIK_F_S:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schublade:

Look , the Bundeswehr was part of an Aliiance. It was built as part of an Alliance - NATO.
And it can't function properly if you are forced in this game to fight against your partners instead of the common enemy.

Imagine the defense budget of Germany if the Bundeswehr was built to fight against every one of it's neighbours.
German Air sucks because it's missing the Airplanes and missiles it would have built if it had to fight the American, British and French Air Forces. So are the Helicopters.

Bo-105 role was Anti Tank, not Anti Air, not Destruction of Ground Anti Air, it simply does not have the missiles with the range needed for this. In a history line where Germany had to fight everybody else it would have, It would look like an Apache, let's call this fictious Bo "Indianer".

So because Germany doesn't get the air cover and the missiles needed that little Bo can't shine in it's role most of the time.

"was", when did we leave? :emofdr: apart from a couple politicians that feel we'd be stronger by ourselves (yeah good luck) i dont think anyone made plans for leaving said alliance

"... in this game" ...I was and I am refering to War thunder,

[WBW Obiwan ComeBlowMe]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von NIK_F_S:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schublade:

Look , the Bundeswehr was part of an Aliiance. It was built as part of an Alliance - NATO.
And it can't function properly if you are forced in this game to fight against your partners instead of the common enemy.

Imagine the defense budget of Germany if the Bundeswehr was built to fight against every one of it's neighbours.
German Air sucks because it's missing the Airplanes and missiles it would have built if it had to fight the American, British and French Air Forces. So are the Helicopters.

Bo-105 role was Anti Tank, not Anti Air, not Destruction of Ground Anti Air, it simply does not have the missiles with the range needed for this. In a history line where Germany had to fight everybody else it would have, It would look like an Apache, let's call this fictious Bo "Indianer".

So because Germany doesn't get the air cover and the missiles needed that little Bo can't shine in it's role most of the time.

"was", when did we leave? :emofdr: apart from a couple politicians that feel we'd be stronger by ourselves (yeah good luck) i dont think anyone made plans for leaving said alliance

when I was stationed in Germany is was a common belief among us and our German counterparts that without NATO and the US Europe would get rolled up to at least the middle of Germany and Poland. I got to go visit Nuremberg again...i miss it

[Gaius]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Weltreisender:

I love the Bo 105, mostly bc it is very agile while packing a decent punch, and yet I never see them in battle.

I think the issue is - the lineups don't match.

I have both the Bo-105 CB2 and the Mi-24P premiums and one is 9.3 and the other, 9.7

The B0-105 has 8 ITOWs, 3.75 km range missiles with 296 m/s speed.

The Mi-24P can carry 4 Shturm, 5.0 km missiles with 550 m/s , R60KM all aspect IR missiles, and 40 S8K rocks with any combination of the previous missiles.

Yeah, the Bo is 9.3, not 9.7, but here is the lineup issue: 9.7 brings RkfW 90, Leo 2K, Ozelot/Gepard 1A2 and Wiesel 1A2, not even talking about the ONLY CAS plane for a long time - the Mig 23BM.

Other issue is the worst case machup - if you go 9.3, you'll already face one of the worst upties you can, the 10.3 with modern MBTs for all nations and murderous CAS that require missile AA, so there's less incentive to not just accept it and do 9.7.