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Champion Marsh Nov 21, 2023 @ 7:23am
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Strela is OP
I don't know why no one is talking about this, 20g missile at 9.3 is wild. "WeLl JuSt FlArE" Most planes around this BR don't even have flares. Also, the tracking on that missile is way too strong, more instances than not, I jig and flare the strela's missile and it ignores it despite not having any anti flare tech. All in all, just too strong for 9.3, it is the most used AA right now in top tier in my experience. +if you care to argue a point that the strela is fine for it's BR then do so respectfully. no where in this post is toxicity, just from my last 200 hours or so this has been my experience.
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Lt-AlphaFoxtrot Nov 22, 2023 @ 5:18am 
most likely gonna up BR soon to 9.7.
JuX Nov 22, 2023 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by Weeblord69:
Originally posted by Elijah1:
100% agree
Let alone the fact strela likes to ignore flares quite a few planes at the bracket dont even have flares to begin with
Now gaijin added the contrast tracking to it so it can actually hit helicopters unlike stingers that wont lock until they are under 2km or some cases even 1.5km
ozelot too ignores flares, type 93, type 81, chaparral as well. And they ignore flares more than strela. They have better IRCCM in the game than strela. All of them

Stingers do not ignore flares, i assure you. It's resistant to flaring, but the average player thinks that simply deploying ton of flares is sufficient and don't actually bothered maneuvering to draw the missiles attention to the flares.

Type 93 also got the contrast mode, but unlike Strela it has 10G missile. And anyone that has played around with 10G missiles in air battles can tell you how much they suck against enemies that do a simple turn.

Type 81 also has contrast mode and is way too low in rating. Has 10km range and counter-measure immunity. If unlucky map RNG you can still get stinger level capability, but closer to twice the range and velocity. Which is absurd for a 10 br vehicle and all the while ozelot is 9.7. That is hell of a upgrade over it's rival at 0.3 difference.

And Chaparral is just a different version of a stinger launcher basically, for Israel. And downgraded bloat vehicle for US.


Strela is no longer what it used to be with the changes and as such should be treated differently now. Stingers at least can be defeated at higher altitudes, but not a strela missile.
WeebLord69 Nov 22, 2023 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by JuX:
Originally posted by Weeblord69:
ozelot too ignores flares, type 93, type 81, chaparral as well. And they ignore flares more than strela. They have better IRCCM in the game than strela. All of them

Stingers do not ignore flares, i assure you. It's resistant to flaring, but the average player thinks that simply deploying ton of flares is sufficient and don't actually bothered maneuvering to draw the missiles attention to the flares.

Type 93 also got the contrast mode, but unlike Strela it has 10G missile. And anyone that has played around with 10G missiles in air battles can tell you how much they suck against enemies that do a simple turn.

Type 81 also has contrast mode and is way too low in rating. Has 10km range and counter-measure immunity. If unlucky map RNG you can still get stinger level capability, but closer to twice the range and velocity. Which is absurd for a 10 br vehicle and all the while ozelot is 9.7. That is hell of a upgrade over it's rival at 0.3 difference.

And Chaparral is just a different version of a stinger launcher basically, for Israel. And downgraded bloat vehicle for US.


Strela is no longer what it used to be with the changes and as such should be treated differently now. Stingers at least can be defeated at higher altitudes, but not a strela missile.
stinger has seeker shut off for flares + 1.25 Seeker field of view after launch.
so stinger literally will not see flares after launch. It will shut off the seeker and follow the last known trajectory of the targe if it detects flares. Strela does not have such technology in the game.

Strela only has 1 IRCCM method which is inferior to having 2. 0.5 FOV after launch as IRCCM.

Learn and research before you speak
Here is the data, unlike you i do not speak out of my a*s.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78/edit#gid=330501771
Last edited by WeebLord69; Nov 22, 2023 @ 6:25am
Kunic Nov 22, 2023 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Marsh:
Originally posted by APhone:

Soviet 9.3 AA is very very bad need nerf bias bias REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Japan 9.3 AA (better than strela) is good!
France 9.3 AA (better than strela) is good!
USA 9.3 AA is good!
Israel 9.3 AA is good!
China 9.3 AA is good!
type 93 is absolutely not better than the strela. pgz is barely better than the type 93. santal is the same as the pgz. machbet is a tracked LAV AD. the imp chap is horrible

the biggest advantage the strela has over every 9.3 AA is the effectiveness of it's SAM. 20g ir with contrast mode makes them EXTREMELY STRONG for 9.3BR.

Type 93 is much better than strella if only for the thermals and mobility. (so much more fun...)
WeebLord69 Nov 22, 2023 @ 6:39am 
Originally posted by Kunicross:
Originally posted by Marsh:
type 93 is absolutely not better than the strela. pgz is barely better than the type 93. santal is the same as the pgz. machbet is a tracked LAV AD. the imp chap is horrible

the biggest advantage the strela has over every 9.3 AA is the effectiveness of it's SAM. 20g ir with contrast mode makes them EXTREMELY STRONG for 9.3BR.

Type 93 is much better than strella if only for the thermals and mobility. (so much more fun...)
True. With strela no radar + no thermals makes it extremely hard to find targets in the fog
Cha Cha Real Rough Nov 22, 2023 @ 6:42am 
Just spawn a tank: now you cant be killed by strella. Problem solved!
WeebLord69 Nov 22, 2023 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by Cha Cha Real Rough:
Just spawn a tank: now you cant be killed by strella. Problem solved!
7.62x54 too op
PoopFeast420 Nov 22, 2023 @ 7:04am 
I wish all SPAA was overpowered, go back to air RB obnoxious CAS cucks
30 лет :D Nov 22, 2023 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Kunicross:
Originally posted by Marsh:
type 93 is absolutely not better than the strela. pgz is barely better than the type 93. santal is the same as the pgz. machbet is a tracked LAV AD. the imp chap is horrible

the biggest advantage the strela has over every 9.3 AA is the effectiveness of it's SAM. 20g ir with contrast mode makes them EXTREMELY STRONG for 9.3BR.

Type 93 is much better than strella if only for the thermals and mobility. (so much more fun...)
don't forget the lock on range of 5 meters :steamthumbsup:
JuX Nov 22, 2023 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Weeblord69:
Originally posted by JuX:

Stingers do not ignore flares, i assure you. It's resistant to flaring, but the average player thinks that simply deploying ton of flares is sufficient and don't actually bothered maneuvering to draw the missiles attention to the flares.

Type 93 also got the contrast mode, but unlike Strela it has 10G missile. And anyone that has played around with 10G missiles in air battles can tell you how much they suck against enemies that do a simple turn.

Type 81 also has contrast mode and is way too low in rating. Has 10km range and counter-measure immunity. If unlucky map RNG you can still get stinger level capability, but closer to twice the range and velocity. Which is absurd for a 10 br vehicle and all the while ozelot is 9.7. That is hell of a upgrade over it's rival at 0.3 difference.

And Chaparral is just a different version of a stinger launcher basically, for Israel. And downgraded bloat vehicle for US.


Strela is no longer what it used to be with the changes and as such should be treated differently now. Stingers at least can be defeated at higher altitudes, but not a strela missile.
stinger has seeker shut off for flares + 1.25 Seeker field of view after launch.
so stinger literally will not see flares after launch. It will shut off the seeker and follow the last known trajectory of the targe if it detects flares. Strela does not have such technology in the game.

Strela only has 1 IRCCM method which is inferior to having 2. 0.5 FOV after launch as IRCCM.

Learn and research before you speak
Here is the data, unlike you i do not speak out of my a*s.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78/edit#gid=330501771

That doesn't mean stingers are enchanted with magic.

They still perceive flares after launch, but makes it more difficult to do so. The AIM-9M and R-73's are no different. You can defeat them with flares, long as you know how.

Even on personal experience to this day i still evade stingers with flares.


Strela on otherhand now was given a contrast mode. So long as there isn't a background behind the target it will hit it 100%, regardless if you use counter-measure. Iv tested it and there is no evading the strela missile now if you fly above the deck.

No one is claiming about strela using same features as a stinger.
Blamite Delight Nov 22, 2023 @ 7:33am 
are you kidding me? when I used the strela the thing couldn't lock against distant targets for ♥♥♥♥. pair that with the auto flare on the jets and the fact that they have rocket and bomb CCIP you could barely do anything worthy of anti air
Krelpy Nov 22, 2023 @ 8:14am 
Strela go zoom
French Cat Nov 22, 2023 @ 8:32am 
All the people who defend the Strela have never flown CAS to its full potential. Only thing they know is spacebar and not WASD. Stingers are useless compared to the Strela, and they are at a higher BR. The Strela is more effective than a Roland or Pantsir.
30 лет :D Nov 22, 2023 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by French Cat:
All the people who defend the Strela have never flown CAS to its full potential. Only thing they know is spacebar and not WASD. Stingers are useless compared to the Strela, and they are at a higher BR. The Strela is more effective than a Roland or Pantsir.
♥♥♥♥ off cas ♥♥♥♥♥♥
flat_Lander1 Nov 22, 2023 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by French Cat:
All the people who defend the Strela have never flown CAS to its full potential. Only thing they know is spacebar and not WASD. Stingers are useless compared to the Strela, and they are at a higher BR. The Strela is more effective than a Roland or Pantsir.
strela is more effective than pantsir lmao?
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