Playing against soviet vehicles is sucking entire fun out of the game

[michel_blade]

That is my personal opinion of course, my own experience, but man, it seems like playing on super high difficulty mode when players in soviet tanks play on easy.

No other tech tree have such a big advantage in every single aspect. Yes, you can win even if entire enemy team plays soviets, but the amount of work and focus you need to put in to achieve parity is unfair. It is tiresome.

I am not sure how to deal with this. Quitting?

[Omega Sirius]

If you want easy mode, play Germany.
You do realize that USSR are known for the longest reloads, worst gun depressions, slow reverse speeds, etc, right? I can go on and on.
Go play USSR and see how "easy" it really is. lol

[Resident NATO Freedom Enjoyer]

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

If you want easy mode, play Germany.
You do realize that USSR are known for the longest reloads, worst gun depressions, slow reverse speeds, etc, right? I can go on and on.
Go play USSR and see how "easy" it really is. lol

To be fair I mostly main America, Germany, British, Japan, but I took out my soviet 4.0 lineup the other day and went 17-0 while just driving casually through Sweden. I was in the 1940 T-34 and just...bounced everything. Although that could be a bad enemy team too because they were very...well, you know. They were worse than bots.

Edit: Although to be fair I probably could have done the same in a Sherman or Panzer, their shots weren't very accurate. I mean how do you shoot someone from behind and hit only their track?

[xCrossFaith]

Let me guess, you play one of the most powerful nations but suck at it and jumped into the "lmao rusian bias" wagon wothout even pretending to try to see what you may be doing wrong?

[xCrossFaith]

Originally posted by Resident NATO Freedom Enjoyer:

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

If you want easy mode, play Germany.
You do realize that USSR are known for the longest reloads, worst gun depressions, slow reverse speeds, etc, right? I can go on and on.
Go play USSR and see how "easy" it really is. lol

To be fair I mostly main America, Germany, British, Japan, but I took out my soviet 4.0 lineup the other day and went 17-0 while just driving casually through Sweden. I was in the 1940 T-34 and just...bounced everything. Although that could be a bad enemy team too because they were very...well, you know. They were worse than bots.

To add to this, at those tiers people is still not used to the game and are not familiar with where to shoot consistently, I went to low tier again since a friend of mine jus started the game, I can bet real money if the french Char 2C was on the russian tree you would be reading daily complaints about it with how easy it one shots stuff and with how many hits it can take

[Omega Sirius]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

Originally posted by Resident NATO Freedom Enjoyer:

To be fair I mostly main America, Germany, British, Japan, but I took out my soviet 4.0 lineup the other day and went 17-0 while just driving casually through Sweden. I was in the 1940 T-34 and just...bounced everything. Although that could be a bad enemy team too because they were very...well, you know. They were worse than bots.

To add to this, at those tiers people is still not used to the game and are not familiar with where to shoot consistently, I went to low tier again since a friend of mine jus started the game, I can bet real money if the french Char 2C was on the russian tree you would be reading daily complaints about it

This right here.
Nobody ever talks about the French tanks. Heavily underrated tanks. Better than the British tree in my opinion.

[Amoeba]

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

If you want easy mode, play Germany.
You do realize that USSR are known for the longest reloads, worst gun depressions, slow reverse speeds, etc, right? I can go on and on.
Go play USSR and see how "easy" it really is. lol

reached 10.0 in USSR in about 2 months from 5.7
easiest tree to play.

[FD_Stalker]

Yesterday I had a Cargo Port Domination round with a t-34-100 get 7-0 on enemy team and my GE+US team failed a 5v1 against him at B... I had to spawn a jpz to strike him on high speed frontally after I got my Tiger II got pincered from C NW of B. Team just can't deal with armor hit hard & retreat fast and won't even bother to click on map. The truth is all wwii tanks are HEATFS cannon fodders except US HTs. We won the match easily even he got 5 other kills after he lost his t-34-100

[KANEDA999]

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

If you want easy mode, play Germany.
You do realize that USSR are known for the longest reloads, worst gun depressions, slow reverse speeds, etc, right? I can go on and on.
Go play USSR and see how "easy" it really is. lol

lmao seeing USSR mains crying about their MBT performance has to be one of the most twisted ♥♥♥♥ xD

[michel_blade]

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

If you want easy mode, play Germany.
You do realize that USSR are known for the longest reloads, worst gun depressions, slow reverse speeds, etc, right? I can go on and on.
Go play USSR and see how "easy" it really is. lol

I have played with soviet tanks and yes it is super easy. I do not want to main them tho, because I do not like the machines.

Long reload do not hurt them that much, also some of their tanks have super short reloads, so what are you talking about?
Having gun depression is good, it makes a difference, in some edge cases. I hate when I have too little of it, but lets be fair, more often than not it makes no difference.
You do not need reverse speed if you have very good odds of winning a charge through an open field and going face to face with your opponent. I agree, reverse speed is important, but only if you have to play defensively. Soviets do not need that.

Soviet tanks have always an edge, no matter which machines you compare. They are either faster or as fast. They more mobile or as mobile. They can take few shells without bothering, but they will kill you with one shot.

[michel_blade]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

Let me guess, you play one of the most powerful nations but suck at it and jumped into the "lmao rusian bias" wagon wothout even pretending to try to see what you may be doing wrong?

I am more often in top 3 of my team than not. Obviously I am no master of WT, but I can carry my weight and few other people on a good day. It does not matter. I lose to soviet vehicles that do the dumpiest things ever and are not punished for.

It is just that constant disadvantage. I have to always be aware of everything, always think through all options, remember all the weak points of all the variants, remember about positioning and so on and so on. Do not get me wrong, I like this aspect. What I do not like is that soviet players do not have to do that. They can benefit from your smallest mistake. You shoot first, but you missed a bit, because their "weak" point is super slim, well, now they can shoot in your direction and you are either dead, or disabled, so dead in a moment. Their "weaknesses" do not matter as much.

[MOZZIE]

seems like skill issue

[xCrossFaith]

Originally posted by michel_blade:

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

Let me guess, you play one of the most powerful nations but suck at it and jumped into the "lmao rusian bias" wagon wothout even pretending to try to see what you may be doing wrong?

I am more often in top 3 of my team than not. Obviously I am no master of WT, but I can carry my weight and few other people on a good day. It does not matter. I lose to soviet vehicles that do the dumpiest things ever and are not punished for.

It is just that constant disadvantage. I have to always be aware of everything, always think through all options, remember all the weak points of all the variants, remember about positioning and so on and so on. Do not get me wrong, I like this aspect. What I do not like is that soviet players do not have to do that. They can benefit from your smallest mistake. You shoot first, but you missed a bit, because their "weak" point is super slim, well, now they can shoot in your direction and you are either dead, or disabled, so dead in a moment. Their "weaknesses" do not matter as much.

You are describing Germany at those lower tiers more than USSR tbh

Anyway, It seems you are too deep in the anti russian bias already for you to see that you are going to both one shot and be one shotted often, you probably make the same mistake while shooting a T34 as while shooting a Tiger, but only the first one will seem op to you

Once you are already in that mindset with absolutely no will to think otherwise simply because a part of the community tells you what you have to think, not much can be done :/

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

Better than the British tree in my opinion.

Anything is better than Britain by virtue of having ammunition that does relevant amounts of damage before the modern era.

[michel_blade]

Originally posted by MOZZIE:

seems like skill issue

It takes so much skill to hold W and shoot back when someone shoots at you. I wish I could do that.

[Velico]

Originally posted by michel_blade:

I am more often in top 3 of my team than not. Obviously I am no master of WT, but I can carry my weight and few other people on a good day. It does not matter. I lose to soviet vehicles that do the dumpiest things ever and are not punished for.

It is just that constant disadvantage. I have to always be aware of everything, always think through all options, remember all the weak points of all the variants, remember about positioning and so on and so on. Do not get me wrong, I like this aspect. What I do not like is that soviet players do not have to do that. They can benefit from your smallest mistake. You shoot first, but you missed a bit, because their "weak" point is super slim, well, now they can shoot in your direction and you are either dead, or disabled, so dead in a moment. Their "weaknesses" do not matter as much.

Don't fall for the RU main bait, they're in denial. I play, and have played since closed beta, and T-34/KV-1 from 3.7-4.7 have almost always reigned supreme. Volumetrics definitely benefited them tremendously. I know how to kill them pretty reliably, and yet they seem most prone to RNG. T-34's can beat almost every other tank to key positions and lock them down with ease if the player is competent. Then you get the sweatlords that exclusively play RU from 2.7-4.7 that are probably a large part of why a lot of new players quit the game around rank 3.

Preface that until Gaijin releases its own database for consideration, these are the only statistics we have available to draw from and they are statistically significant.

https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_kv_1e (65% WR)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_t_50 (65% WR)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_t_34E (92% WR with just over 200 battles?!)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_t_34E_STZ (55%)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_kv_1s (53%)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_t_34_1941_l_11 (72%)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_t_34_1942 (57%)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_kv_2_1940 (61%)
https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_t_34_57_1943 (56%)

There are some duds in there, to be sure (like the KV-85 at 45% after being moved up. Used to be around 55% from what I remember). But overall, RU dominates these BR's and from personal experience a lot of newer players get rolled over by them. I've largely stopped playing below 5.0 because of how much I have to try to eek out a win every match against them. And before any wannabe cheeky stat shamers want to try and say "skill issue", see https://thunderskill.com/en/stat/Velico85. Then, politely eat your words, preferably with a spork.