Why are the vehicles so expensive?

[joshuagaming69]

80 freaking dollars for some pixels.. And the worst part is people actaully buy it. They make their game so hard to grind that it literally takes weeks or months to get a certain vehicle that is locked behind a paywall. Like they always say, they need money to keep the servers up. How about they stop ****** pocketing 90% of the money dedicated to the servers for profit? I cant want until more war thunder competition comes around

[:partyhat:]

And then they put them (rightfully) up in BR post purchase. Low tier <3 is still fun tho

[Star-Dust]

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

80 freaking dollars for some pixels.. And the worst part is people actaully buy it. They make their game so hard to grind that it literally takes weeks or months to get a certain vehicle that is locked behind a paywall. Like they always say, they need money to keep the servers up. How about they stop ****** pocketing 90% of the money dedicated to the servers for profit? I cant want until more war thunder competition comes around

cause they freaking dont care. i been saying for so long just remove repair costs then we would have alot of sl to spare

[Star-Dust]

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

80 freaking dollars for some pixels.. And the worst part is people actaully buy it. They make their game so hard to grind that it literally takes weeks or months to get a certain vehicle that is locked behind a paywall. Like they always say, they need money to keep the servers up. How about they stop ****** pocketing 90% of the money dedicated to the servers for profit? I cant want until more war thunder competition comes around

same here war thunder competition

[Eftwyrd]

because you are subsidising all those other vehicles they give out for free, not just for yourself but for the numerous players who will never pay a cent for every player that will because thats how free to play games work

gaijin evidently believe, and have about a decade of sales data to back up their opinion on the matter unlike any of the forum 'experts', that the price gives the best return with lower prices not increasing the number of sales enough to outweigh the greater return per unit

[joshuagaming69]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

because you are subsidising all those other vehicles they give out for free, not just for yourself but for the numerous players who will never pay a cent for every player that will because thats how free to play games work

gaijin evidently believe, and have about a decade of sales data to back there opinion on the matter up unlike any of the forum 'experts', that the price gives the best return with lower prices not increasing the number of sales enough to outweigh the greater return per unit

If the people who own gaijin didnt pocket all the money they wouldnt have a funding problem. Just saying

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

because you are subsidising all those other vehicles they give out for free, not just for yourself but for the numerous players who will never pay a cent for every player that will because thats how free to play games work

gaijin evidently believe, and have about a decade of sales data to back there opinion on the matter up unlike any of the forum 'experts', that the price gives the best return with lower prices not increasing the number of sales enough to outweigh the greater return per unit

If the people who own gaijin didnt pocket all the money they wouldnt have a funding problem. Just saying

because you clearly know so much about running a company... /sarcasm

do you know how much office space costs in a major city, having dealt with that in nz its not pretty and i can only imagine in a major european city its a whole lot worse, and as a developer myself do you know how much we get payed... i can tell you if they want to keep anyone experienced it wont be a little.

so you know jack all about the operational costs of a business consisting of several hundred very well payed individuals and are just venting in your ignorance

if you are waiting for a 'competitor' dont hold your breath, gaijin and wargaming have too many years head start on the competition. anyone intending to compete with either of them cannot hope to match even a fraction of the content either game has built up in that time so will have to start from a much more modest initial release and slowly build up to it over the course of years. this against two established giants in the very niche pond makes for a very risky prospect to pitch to investors and/or executives

[joshuagaming69]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

If the people who own gaijin didnt pocket all the money they wouldnt have a funding problem. Just saying

because you clearly know so much about running a company... /sarcasm

do you know how much office space costs in a major city, having dealt with that in nz its not pretty and i can only imagine in a major european city its a whole lot worse, and as a developer myself do you know how much we get payed... i can tell you if they want to keep anyone experienced it wont be a little.

so you know jack all about the operational costs of a business consisting of several hundred very well payed individuals and are just venting in your ignorance

If you think its the developer who is embezzling then your either lying or just stupid

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

you evidently have some very warped ideas about how businesses work... and no idea whatsoever about how much profit there actually is in a game like this

the whole idea that there are any significant profits to embezzle after operational costs have had their way is actually laughable, gaijin would need to float tens of millions just for wages for a couple of hundred employees, how many premiums do you think that takes every three month release cycle...

where another game with a fixed cost the developers pack up and move onto something else after a couple of years, with free to play games like this those developers never stopped and have been working at the same pace on the same product for more than ten, however much you pay for a triple A title for a handful of years work gaijin have to make continuously

absorbed in the cost of the few premiums each release brings are not only the cost of the 3d artist who made the model, the developers who implemented it, but also all those same costs for a dozen or more 'free' vehicles that came with that update, three months of rent on an office between each major update, wages for several hundred people over that period, ongoing costs from the providers they rent servers off in at least 4 countries, miscellaneous utilities costs for power, internet (and for businesses these are significantly higher than a consumer would pay, not just for quantity used but paying a massive premium for immediate response if there is an outage) etc. i wouldn't be surprised if they have very little profit left over at all

until you have actually dealt with it you cant really grasp how much money passes through even a relatively small business, just for a months wages for 100 employee (and gaijin has several times that) at hungaries average monthly wage of about $1500 US according to google (and bearing in mind developers are going to be significantly above average) thats 150k, so they would have to sell upwards of two thousand $70 premiums just to pay 100 average employees for a month

now imagine gaijin not only have about 5 times that many employees, but they are probably payed significantly above average, and gaijin working on a 3 month release cycle, so before even looking at any of the many other costs gaijin need to sell tens of thousands of $70 premiums every major release just to pay the bills

[joshuagaming69]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

If the people who own gaijin didnt pocket all the money they wouldnt have a funding problem. Just saying

because you clearly know so much about running a company... /sarcasm

do you know how much office space costs in a major city, having dealt with that in nz its not pretty and i can only imagine in a major european city its a whole lot worse, and as a developer myself do you know how much we get payed... i can tell you if they want to keep anyone experienced it wont be a little.

so you know jack all about the operational costs of a business consisting of several hundred very well payed individuals and are just venting in your ignorance

if you are waiting for a 'competitor' dont hold your breath, gaijin and wargaming have too many years head start on the competition. anyone intending to compete with either of them cannot hope to match even a fraction of the content either game has built up in that time so will have to start from a much more modest initial release and slowly build up to it over the course of years. this against two established giants in the very niche pond makes for a very risky prospect to pitch to investors and/or executives

Gaijin is a independent company, so they dont have their corporate overlords taking 80% of all profit like most games developed. So you have no idea what your talking about. Gaijin has more then enough money

[Cop Unit 12]

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

more war thunder competition comes around

Well there is World of tanks, World of Warplanes, World of Warships and Gunner Heat PC to my knowledge.

But in all honest idc overall. Gaijin just under tiers new premium vehicles only to "fix" their br placement later lol. War thunder is a F2p game it's how it makes it money. It sucks that some very unique vehicles are locked behind the premium tree but it is what it is.

[Shyue Chou]

How much do you reckon each premium vehicle should cost? I would like to know what you think.

[Hotschi48]

As long as people are willing to pay the price asked, it won't drop. And whatever anyone at Gajin does with the money, it's not up to customers and freeloaders to tell them what to do with it, they can also use it to wallpaper the toilet if they feel like it.

Want it? Buy it. Can't afford it? Don't buy it. That simple, whether you or I or we like it or not.

[joshuagaming69]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

How much do you reckon each premium vehicle should cost? I would like to know what you think. :income:

not 80 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dollars? I swear you corporate ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are something else.

[joshuagaming69]

Originally posted by Hotschi48:

As long as people are willing to pay the price asked, it won't drop. And whatever anyone at Gajin does with the money, it's not up to customers and freeloaders to tell them what to do with it, they can also use it to wallpaper the toilet if they feel like it.

Want it? Buy it. Can't afford it? Don't buy it. That simple, whether you or I or we like it or not.

Greed and moneylust isnt going to get you anywhere but hell

[joshuagaming69]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Originally posted by SCHUTZANZUG:

you evidently have some very warped ideas about how businesses work... and no idea whatsoever about how much profit there actually is in a game like this

the whole idea that there are any significant profits to embezzle after operational costs have had their way is actually laughable, gaijin would need to float tens of millions just for wages for a couple of hundred employees, how many premiums do you think that takes every three month release cycle...

where another game with a fixed cost the developers pack up and move onto something else after a couple of years, with free to play games like this those developers never stopped and have been working at the same pace on the same product for more than ten, however much you pay for a triple A title for a handful of years work gaijin have to make continuously

absorbed in the cost of the few premiums each release brings are not only the cost of the 3d artist who made the model, the developers who implemented it, but also all those same costs for a dozen or more 'free' vehicles that came with that update, three months of rent on an office between each major update, wages for several hundred people over that period, ongoing costs from the providers they rent servers off in at least 4 countries, miscellaneous utilities costs for power, internet (and for businesses these are significantly higher than a consumer would pay, not just for quantity used but paying a massive premium for immediate response if there is an outage) etc. i wouldn't be surprised if they have very little profit left over at all

until you have actually dealt with it you cant really grasp how much money passes through even a relatively small business, just for a months wages for 100 employee (and gaijin has several times that) at hungaries average monthly wage of about $1500 US according to google (and bearing in mind developers are going to be significantly above average) thats 150k, so they would have to sell upwards of two thousand $70 premiums just to pay 100 average employees for a month

now imagine gaijin not only have about 5 times that many employees, but they are probably payed significantly above average, and gaijin working on a 3 month release cycle, so before even looking at any of the many other costs gaijin need to sell tens of thousands of $70 premiums every major release just to pay the bills

They own a 40+ million dollar busisness, they own 3% of the entire hungarian profit for online games, and your telling me that they can barly afford to pay their 200 employees? What a joke. And a 3d artist isnt the same thing as a multi million dollar game developer. The rest of the ♥♥♥♥ you wrote is just a shabby probably AI put together justification for making some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 3d models 90$. This is exactly what killed xbox. CorpoRAT greed. Its not like your purchasing the rights to a 3d model or something by buying a vehicle in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game for 90 bucks. Do you think that gaijin makes only 90 dollars from any given model? No they make thousands of dollars annually. And war thunder ISNT a "small busisness" Its owned by Gaijin who owns multiple other games. You are kind of like one of those "tip your landlord" type of people because the landlords just "hardly scrape by". What a joke we both know gaijin is huge and greedy ASF.