My T90M stats so far….Balance are you present?

[Chief Beef]

6 games played, 83% winrate 5 deaths(one from CAS) 19 kills, completely stock other than the parts and NVD I unlocked while just playing normally.
So not only does America hang around a low 40% winrate, doesn’t get the extra armor that it should get, but now it has to face this vehicle that can basically just eat your round. I’ve had shots go right through my tank literally not hitting a single thing inside my tank.
I wonder what documents they used to improve the reload speed of 120MM Abrams? Maybe the loader woke up that day and had an extra large coffee and was really motivated and ready to load shells faster than previous years for some reason.
They have always tried to aim for realism when they can, and they’ll just fill in the blanks they think they know but aren’t sure. It would be mind boggling to me that for some reason each variant of the Abrams gets heavier, but nothing has changed about them. Do the crew just weigh an extra few tons every time you get a new variant?
Gaijin just do what’s right and will make things balanced, give the top tier Abrams a spall liner. You guys are completely capable and I’m not sure why they are picking this hill to die on, but it seems they are. Top tier tanks is more unbalanced than it has ever been it seems at the moment.

Edit: You guys think to seem I want to see the downfall of the T90M, no I want to U.S. teams with a win rate that actually is competitive. If you guys didn't know this is a video game, where all things should be balanced, certain nations shouldn't be completely dominating this game while you try to play others and suffer.
Thanks for the awards (; once people actually read the title and started realizing this post was about trying to balance the game don't want to say anything so they can keep seal clubbing.

[Proof Of Staek]

It's just being true to reality. It's a good tank.

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door Proof Of Staek:

It's just being true to reality. It's a good tank.

It is certainly a good tank, the best part about it is the spall liner. If they are going to add a “good” tank they should at least give USA or another nation Russia faces often some sort of way to counter it. Right now Russian teams are absolutely mopping the floor even more than before at top tier which I didn’t think was possible.

[bastion of pragmatism]

It’s a good tank irl but it has a lot of disadvantages like bad mobility, neck brace gun handling, slow reload, it’s not good in war thunder man. You are fighting idiots in premium abrams and challengers. Obviously you will farm them it’s the same thing in the t90a I kill wolfpacks and Leo 2s all day

[Darugdawg]

Origineel geplaatst door Chief Beef:

Origineel geplaatst door Proof Of Staek:

It's just being true to reality. It's a good tank.

It is certainly a good tank, the best part about it is the spall liner. If they are going to add a “good” tank they should at least give USA or another nation Russia faces often some sort of way to counter it. Right now Russian teams are absolutely mopping the floor even more than before at top tier which I didn’t think was possible.

russian mains say its bad...

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door Darugdawg:

Origineel geplaatst door Chief Beef:

It is certainly a good tank, the best part about it is the spall liner. If they are going to add a “good” tank they should at least give USA or another nation Russia faces often some sort of way to counter it. Right now Russian teams are absolutely mopping the floor even more than before at top tier which I didn’t think was possible.

russian mains say its bad...

It certainly isn’t good in some aspects, like reload, the gun on top gives it a high profile and of course reverse speed.
You know what it is good at? Surviving shots that would normally take you out giving you ample time to load your gun, and position yourself to return fire to the guy who just shot at you after you’ve taken no damage.

Origineel geplaatst door yukihana lamy:

It’s a good tank irl but it has a lot of disadvantages like bad mobility, neck brace gun handling, slow reload, it’s not good in war thunder man. You are fighting idiots in premium abrams and challengers. Obviously you will farm them it’s the same thing in the t90a I kill wolfpacks and Leo 2s all day

I agree, lots of noobs play NATO nations for some reason so certainly a chunk of kills comes from that, but like I said, I was completely stock with my little BM42 and was able to win 5/6 of my games, along with the other swarms of T90s and BVMs.
If they gave spall liners to Abrams maybe more skilled players would want to play USA, therefore balancing out W/L ratio somewhat. That is really the most concerning part, it’s completely and utterly unfair and nobody can deny it, Russia mains will cope deny it so they can keep things the way they are which is unfortunate, but some people like to see the world burn I guess.
Even if they didn’t want to give the Abrams a spall liner for whatever reason, they should make battles Russia vs Russia. “Realistic” battles where nations of similar interests teamed up are no longer a thing. You can be in an American Sherman on a team with a German tiger and that nowadays is completely normal.

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door yukihana lamy:

It’s a good tank irl but it has a lot of disadvantages like bad mobility, neck brace gun handling, slow reload, it’s not good in war thunder man. You are fighting idiots in premium abrams and challengers. Obviously you will farm them it’s the same thing in the t90a I kill wolfpacks and Leo 2s all day

Also even experienced players are going to have trouble facing it, seeing how APFSDS can literally hit your tank and do NO damage, once again giving you time to fire back and making the experienced player on the other team 1 death leave because they got so made they should’ve had a kill, and then boom their APFSDS does absolutely nothing.
Like I said before, if nothing else Russia should be facing Russia for the time being, just to even things out.

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door Darugdawg:

Origineel geplaatst door Chief Beef:

It is certainly a good tank, the best part about it is the spall liner. If they are going to add a “good” tank they should at least give USA or another nation Russia faces often some sort of way to counter it. Right now Russian teams are absolutely mopping the floor even more than before at top tier which I didn’t think was possible.

russian mains say its bad...

You have been playing with the wrong Russian mains I guess, or you are one yourself and want to keep seal clubbing in the T90 for a bit.
I also started out focusing on Russia, I have the Su27 and obviously the T90M, and I realize how bad this is for the game.

[bastion of pragmatism]

Imo it really isn’t that strong. It’s good but the new leopards are better in every way. Id say the newly buffed m1s are also a lot more deadly now.

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door yukihana lamy:

Imo it really isn’t that strong. It’s good but the new leopards are better in every way. Id say the newly buffed m1s are also a lot more deadly now.

The buffed reload speed is nice, but it is firing at a tank that can completely negate APFSDS, making the reload somewhat negligible against the t90.
The new leopard is good, but it is once again worse in the survivability category, out of those 19 kills I killed a couple of the new A7s with ease, one blasted a round right through my side, doing no damage so I fired at him and one shot him.
Realistically any top tier tank is good if you get the first shot off and you take the enemies gun breach. Literally any tank in the game other than the T90 can be one shot with ease, with the T90 it is somewhat random when you will be able to score successful one shots. The only counter to the T90 at the moment is kill it’s breach and put enough rounds into it to hopefully eventually kill it, which is also an option in killing any other top tier tank, but with the T90 it is damn near a requirement unless the enemy gets a shot at you from directly behind you.

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door yukihana lamy:

Imo it really isn’t that strong. It’s good but the new leopards are better in every way. Id say the newly buffed m1s are also a lot more deadly now.

Imagine playing a PvP game where two factions are set on two different teams and each have their own personalized loadouts.
One faction gets supersuit that can dramatically increase the survival rate of getting shot, as well as a gun that is more than capable of performing at it's job.
The other faction gets just a gun with a little bit better reload speed, well that is a cool perk, other than the faction it plays against can negate getting shot entirely, making your reload speed not as strong as it sounds.
Nothing is fair about that scenario, and that is currently what it is like at top tier.

[bastion of pragmatism]

im not sure what you mean brother. the t90 has 3 crew and is stuffed with ammo, in my experience both playing the t90 and fighting the t90 is is rare that a penetrating hit does not kill them unless you are aiming at the engine bay or something. tanks like the Leo, M1 and even merkava are like barns with the crew spread way out and ammo stored safely away, significantly harder to one shot (but still very possible)

[hsf_]

Origineel geplaatst door Proof Of Staek:

It's just being true to reality. It's a good tank.

lmao gr8 b8 m8

[SpiralRazor]

Origineel geplaatst door Chief Beef:

6 games played, 83% winrate 5 deaths(one from CAS) 19 kills, completely stock other than the parts and NVD I unlocked while just playing normally.
So not only does America hang around a low 40% winrate, doesn’t get the extra armor that it should get, but now it has to face this vehicle that can basically just eat your round. I’ve had shots go right through my tank literally not hitting a single thing inside my tank.
I wonder what documents they used to improve the reload speed of 120MM Abrams? Maybe the loader woke up that day and had an extra large coffee and was really motivated and ready to load shells faster than previous years for some reason.
They have always tried to aim for realism when they can, and they’ll just fill in the blanks they think they know but aren’t sure. It would be mind boggling to me that for some reason each variant of the Abrams gets heavier, but nothing has changed about them. Do the crew just weigh an extra few tons every time you get a new variant?
Gaijin just do what’s right and will make things balanced, give the top tier Abrams a spall liner. You guys are completely capable and I’m not sure why they are picking this hill to die on, but it seems they are. Top tier tanks is more unbalanced than it has ever been it seems at the moment.

/Ariete has entered the chat

[bunny]

Origineel geplaatst door Proof Of Staek:

It's just being true to reality. It's a good tank.

irl it has the same performance as a t-80 but with worse reverse speed. so pretty awful

[Chief Beef]

Origineel geplaatst door yukihana lamy:

im not sure what you mean brother. the t90 has 3 crew and is stuffed with ammo, in my experience both playing the t90 and fighting the t90 is is rare that a penetrating hit does not kill them unless you are aiming at the engine bay or something. tanks like the Leo, M1 and even merkava are like barns with the crew spread way out and ammo stored safely away, significantly harder to one shot (but still very possible)

It has 3 crew, but a spall liner that makes the APFSDS damage cone wayyyyyyyyy smaller, other times when I have taken a shot through the liner, it only will kill 1 crew member or even just injure them. I have also yet to be ammo racked, you guessed it, because the spall liner protects it.
So you have the T90M and just want to continue clubbing seals, got it. I wish people could put their pride of their country and just have their mind of having a fun and balanced game, instead of one nation with a 60%+ winrate, that is an issue.
I one shot all those tanks all the time, sometimes like you said the crew spacing is an issue, but that is rare compared to the T90M, but everything might as well be spaced in the T90 with the spall liner.