Nerf Leopard 2s

[The Roach]

or buff other tanks to meet them.

[30 лет :D]

Цитата допису michel_blade:

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

asking german main to press something other than W is too much

Guys, of course I do not play like a soviet (just hold W and shoot back), I would not last a minute in Leo 2. And sure, sometimes an enemy hits my side if they ambush/snipe me, but in general I try avoiding them seeing me at all. On all replays (and in general from what I can tell) I see them breaking through the thickest, most angled parts of my armor. You have to play like if Leo 2 has no armour. Even if you can survive 1 out of 5 hits you just lost half of the crew. To get shot and survive without losing at lest gunner/driver plus some crucial hardware happens once every 20 hits, maybe.

german and soviet players are the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ same they both press W and cluelessly drive to the enemy spawn the only difference is T80BVM and T80M made out of soy paper and can be oneshoted by 8.7 french MBT from 1972 and the rest of soviet tanks are even worse
and leo 2a7 and plss ufp made with gaijinium and only damage it reseaves 80% of the time is COMMANDER

[michel_blade]

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

Цитата допису michel_blade:

Guys, of course I do not play like a soviet (just hold W and shoot back), I would not last a minute in Leo 2. And sure, sometimes an enemy hits my side if they ambush/snipe me, but in general I try avoiding them seeing me at all. On all replays (and in general from what I can tell) I see them breaking through the thickest, most angled parts of my armor. You have to play like if Leo 2 has no armour. Even if you can survive 1 out of 5 hits you just lost half of the crew. To get shot and survive without losing at lest gunner/driver plus some crucial hardware happens once every 20 hits, maybe.

german and soviet players are the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ same they both press W and cluelessly drive to the enemy spawn the only difference is T80BVM and T80M made out of soy paper and can be oneshoted by 8.7 french MBT from 1972 and the rest of soviet tanks are even worse
and leo 2a7 and plss ufp made with gaijinium and only damage it reseaves 80% of the time is COMMANDER

You are such a troll :D

In every discussion the only thing you say is "it's German players fault!", or "it's American players fault!" and so on. At this point I am pretty sure you are one of those guys who have 0 points and complain about the team not delivering and calls them names ;⁠)

[The Roach]

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

Цитата допису 𐍂ð𐌰ζ𐌷:

if you die from a single bad shot you are clearly keeping your side to the enemy.

asking german main to press something other than W is too much

its really simple. you find enemy you find target and..... Face them. (present the enemy with the side of your tank that has the most armour) usually the front if you are any leopard ever.

Do that and you will be one of the rare and illusive good German main.

[30 лет :D]

Цитата допису michel_blade:

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

german and soviet players are the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ same they both press W and cluelessly drive to the enemy spawn the only difference is T80BVM and T80M made out of soy paper and can be oneshoted by 8.7 french MBT from 1972 and the rest of soviet tanks are even worse
and leo 2a7 and plss ufp made with gaijinium and only damage it reseaves 80% of the time is COMMANDER

You are such a troll :D

In every discussion the only thing you say is "it's German players fault!", or "it's American players fault!" and so on. At this point I am pretty sure you are one of those guys who have 0 points and complain about the team not delivering and calls them names ;⁠)

Im saying all of this from a point of view of a person who brings 9.0 and perfoms as well as if I bring full 11.7 tier because after you get your first good APFSDS on 9.0+ the only thing that matter is positioning and also most of the time I survived shots on type 10 which is 2nd worst mbt in terms of survivability after ariete was from smoothebrains that bought they way to top tier on BIG THREE

I know what i am saying and I saw it countless times how awful and useless german players can be and how americans that have f16 rush to get some points to spawn in CAS

BY FAR the worst part of playing germany is that you have to be with germans in the same team and I think everyone who played a game for more than 100h will agree with me

[Valkyrie]

Цитата допису Chaoslord 87:

Цитата допису Goose:

they should in fact nerf the 2s38 and Turms...

Not so much nerf but more a BR raise to 10.7 at minimum for the 2S38.
The TURMS can sit where he is for now.

meh, put it up to 10.3

[Valkyrie]

For what reason?
The Leo 1 series isn't an issue
The 2k sucks
That only leaves the 2A4, 2A5, 2A6, 2 PSO and 2A7V of which the first three are on the lower end of decent, especially if you compare them to their equivalents with other tech trees

[Valkyrie]

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

It's always about "lamao now when our lepards are too op and broken because of the broken game this is how it should be lamao skill issue suck it up russian mains you get what you deserved"
People don't and won't even stop and wait for 1 second that there are people on other factions and EVERYONE struggles to kill leo 2 but not T90M or T80BVM

I main France and Japan and I have LITERAL 0 ISSUES fighting top tier Russian MBTs but when it comes to leopards it's always about throwing the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dice

Most times i died in mine is by getting shot through the turret ring or from the front through the tracks.

[ArrowViper]

Unpopular opinion: 2S38 should stay 10.0 ... Why? It's sluggish and has horrible gun depression, negating the unmanned turret, the hull is huge ammorack because of the fuel tank, it has small ready-rack capacity + it fits Soviet 10.0 lineup. I always hated on the 2S38, how OP it is...after getting it, it's really about average (i still have 2.0 K/D in it).

[flat_Lander1]

Цитата допису Valkyrie:

For what reason?
The Leo 1 series isn't an issue
The 2k sucks
That only leaves the 2A4, 2A5, 2A6, 2 PSO and 2A7V of which the first three are on the lower end of decent, especially if you compare them to their equivalents with other tech trees

2k is unironically one of the best leos in the game

[Valkyrie]

Цитата допису flat_Lander1:

Цитата допису Valkyrie:

For what reason?
The Leo 1 series isn't an issue
The 2k sucks
That only leaves the 2A4, 2A5, 2A6, 2 PSO and 2A7V of which the first three are on the lower end of decent, especially if you compare them to their equivalents with other tech trees

2k is unironically one of the best leos in the game

It gets torn to shreds by anything.

[30 лет :D]

Цитата допису Valkyrie:

Цитата допису flat_Lander1:

2k is unironically one of the best leos in the game

It gets torn to shreds by anything.

next you'll say begleitpanzer 57 is not op like PT-76-57 or 2S38

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Nerf.......leopard 2's....? that's a new one for me, they're probably one of the most balanced tanks at their BR.

[Valkyrie]

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

Цитата допису Valkyrie:

It gets torn to shreds by anything.

next you'll say begleitpanzer 57 is not op like PT-76-57 or 2S38

Cuz it's not. Sure, it's good but it's not as good as russia mains always whine about.
Contrary to the 2S38 it doesn't get tracking, no unmanned turret, no sabot, no composite armor (which at its BR is already a thing), no tandem TOW's.
In short, you actually require skill to use it properly, especially talking about the proxy rounds which are just a point and click adventure for the 2S38, and when facing ERA, something that is already quite busted in this game.

[30 лет :D]

Цитата допису Valkyrie:

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

next you'll say begleitpanzer 57 is not op like PT-76-57 or 2S38

Cuz it's not. Sure, it's good but it's not as good as russia mains always whine about.
Contrary to the 2S38 it doesn't get tracking, no unmanned turret, no sabot, no composite armor (which at its BR is already a thing), no tandem TOW's.
In short, you actually require skill to use it properly, especially talking about the proxy rounds which are just a point and click adventure for the 2S38, and when facing ERA, something that is already quite busted in this game.

begleit is 9.3 and it requires NO skill to play good on this br
also it too has proxy round HE-VT
skill issue

[Valkyrie]

Цитата допису kuban goku.gov:

Цитата допису Valkyrie:

Cuz it's not. Sure, it's good but it's not as good as russia mains always whine about.
Contrary to the 2S38 it doesn't get tracking, no unmanned turret, no sabot, no composite armor (which at its BR is already a thing), no tandem TOW's.
In short, you actually require skill to use it properly, especially talking about the proxy rounds which are just a point and click adventure for the 2S38, and when facing ERA, something that is already quite busted in this game.

begleit is 9.3 and it requires NO skill to play good on this br
also it too has proxy round HE-VT
skill issue

Source: Trust me bro

I actually pointed out it gets proxy rounds but you aparrently didn't bother reading~

You don't even try to field any arguments other than statements, completely ignoring previous points made.
Please go back to school and learn how to properly discuss.
Not gonna waste my vacation with someone who eagerly chugs down propaganda.