F-4C, F-105 or F-111A talisman?

[Illusionyary]

I'm currently grinding out the F-111 but I should get it before the sale ends, wondering what would be best for a talisman for bombing bases and getting the air kill here and there for the best grinding potential?

Thanks.

[Illusionyary]

Well I got the Vark and realized because it's new, the talisman for it isn't on sale. Oof. I knew it wouldn't be discounted SL wise but didn't know talismans worked the same way, damn.

Well, question now is, F-4C or F-105D or not bother lol?

[1337]

F5E, thank me later

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by 1337:

F5E, thank me later

F-5E can't exactly bomb bases and I don't have it yet, lol. Although I know it's very good.

[Mark]

+ for F-5E.

With the F-105 its often not a very easy flight to get to a base.
Lots of better jets can get to the F-105 at its tier.

With the F-105 and F-111 the other jets are as fast and are often waiting.

The sky is full of jets like the F-5E as it works well.

[JuX]

Talisman for F-8E, as it's formidable missile platform and decent dogfighter. Definitely worth playing with the new skill reward system in place.

F-4C and F-105D are not particularly good investments. Both mediocre aircrafts at best and neither have counter-measures so if competent Mig-21 pilots finds you, then you are good as dead.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by JuX:

Talisman for F-8E, as it's formidable missile platform and decent dogfighter. Definitely worth playing with the new skill reward system in place.

F-4C and F-105D are not particularly good investments. Both mediocre aircrafts at best and neither have counter-measures so if competent Mig-21 pilots finds you, then you are good as dead.

I did look at the F-8E, although I have the F-5C so I'm not sure if I need another dogfighter aircraft. I know it sounds stupid but I'm after a bomb truck more than a fighter, hence why I'm looking at the F-4C and such. Bases reward far more than killing people so something that can easily get a base off then engage fighter mode is the ideal grinder imho.

The F-5C can do it, but the bombs extremely weigh down the aircraft and you're last off the line to the bases, which isn't a bad thing assuming other aircraft aren't going for them as usually the faster fighters are distracted by closer aircraft so you can drop.

Something like the Kfir Canard is perfect imho, you can easily get to the bases first, drop, destroy the base, then go full fighter. I'm wondering if the F-4C or F-105D can do this too if fast enough.

[JuX]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by JuX:

Talisman for F-8E, as it's formidable missile platform and decent dogfighter. Definitely worth playing with the new skill reward system in place.

F-4C and F-105D are not particularly good investments. Both mediocre aircrafts at best and neither have counter-measures so if competent Mig-21 pilots finds you, then you are good as dead.

I did look at the F-8E, although I have the F-5C so I'm not sure if I need another dogfighter aircraft. I know it sounds stupid but I'm after a bomb truck more than a fighter, hence why I'm looking at the F-4C and such. Bases reward far more than killing people so something that can easily get a base off then engage fighter mode is the ideal grinder imho.

F-105D is manageable and carry 2 bases worth of bombs. However you have to avoid aircrafts with front-aspect missiles like Su-25. Since you can't bring sidewinders to shoot them down with this loadout.

It lives by "Speed is life" motto, so everytime your speed dips below mach speed, you are at significant danger. Otherwise you can defeat missiles like R-60's as some players often get trigger happy cause of the fact you don't have flares. With just slight turns to bleed missiles energy.

The maingun is also powerful with 1000rnd's. Practically a F-104, but slower.


A-7D can carry 3 bases worth of bombs, but is subsonic and with the weight will loose in acceleration with A-10, but has higher max speed.

A-10A Late can do lot of ground pounding with maingun if your team wins the early game. Well as you survive it. It's formidable dogfighter as you turn inside everyones turn circle while they go too fast and when they go vertical you fly underneath them. It's difficult battle to survive, but not a complete chump and people under estimate it constantly.

[♕Canario]

+ F-5E, very broken in his br

[Samuelson McBanquet Magonahew Jr]

disgusting premium players

[French Cat]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

I'm currently grinding out the F-111 but I should get it before the sale ends, wondering what would be best for a talisman for bombing bases and getting the air kill here and there for the best grinding potential?

Thanks.

F-4E, so much better than the F-5E. Missile bus that just got buffed and now it can break Mach 1.30 ON THE DECK. You also now got the radar leading thing for the cannon. You mostly get downtiers to 10.3 and a couple full uptiers, but you still would do great. Just gotta go around the furball and target the premium F-4S players. Average kill count is 4 so you make so much more RP and SL than bombing. I may be biased because the F-4E is my favorite :]

[✿Sqüirrel✿]

Just fyi bombing bases is one of the slowest as well as worst ways to rank up. Not only will you arrive slower, but you will be a much worse player and get stomped on when you arrive at your desired plane. Even more so now with the skill bonus multipliers.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by ✿Sqüirrel✿:

Just fyi bombing bases is one of the slowest as well as worst ways to rank up. Not only will you arrive slower, but you will be a much worse player and get stomped on when you arrive at your desired plane. Even more so now with the skill bonus multipliers.

Not true. Bombing one base and then killing 1-2 players nets the most RP and SL by far. I've done plenty of testing of this and unless you can average 4 kills a game (I can't, more like 1-2), it's far more profitable to bomb a base too if you can.

It's also far easier and more relaxing grinding than tryharding every game. I went from basically nothing to Rank VIII with my Milan just by bombing and killing the odd player here and there. Kfir Canard is the best at doing it as it's extremely fast and a very good fighter once the bombs are gone.

[shipdesignerdude]

Bombing isn't meta anymore, there's just too many premium players trying to bomb. It's better to get in good position and drop ~3 kills instead of immediately getting missiled/focused by 3 fighters.

I'd recommend either the F8U-2 or the F-8E, but you probably can't get those in time for the sale. F-105 and F-4C both suffer from having poor missiles, poor maneuverability and no flares. F-5E is really good too, easily my favorite Rank 7 in the US tree.

[♕Canario]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Bombing isn't meta anymore, there's just too many premium players trying to bomb. It's better to get in good position and drop ~3 kills instead of immediately getting missiled/focused by 3 fighters.

I'd recommend either the F8U-2 or the F-8E, but you probably can't get those in time for the sale. F-105 and F-4C both suffer from having poor missiles, poor maneuverability and no flares. F-5E is really good too, easily my favorite Rank 7 in the US tree.

RT

[Futuristic Hexagon]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by 1337:

F5E, thank me later

F-5E can't exactly bomb bases and I don't have it yet, lol. Although I know it's very good.

It's quite a monster. When kids come here to gripe on the F-5C, they may actually be griping on about this. Just like IRL as the Russians found out in their internal testing, it sorta is the poor man's F-16 with that improved engine.

I need to check what it gets, but I know the F-5C gets enough ordinance for at least a base and some more. Checking the wiki just now, looks like you can set up the E also with the same setup (5x BLU-1). It's a napalm bomb and 4 should do the trick if you must find yourself bombing bases as part of a special task or battle pass daily. Add 2x AIM-9P and you can continue on clearing out some fighters (I have done similar in the F-5C.)