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Nekoni·Hajimi May 31, 2023 @ 3:12am
Is it true that you must get up tier if you stop paying for premium account?
The premium account i get is from a set so i have not really pay for it, but during that time i always got down tier. Ever since the premium account stop every game i must get up tier. Sometime even 6.0 in 8.0-9.0 games. Is this a way gaijin fouce us to pay?
Originally posted by Jaes:
As someone that buys yearly Premium, I can 100% guarantee I get no special protections against uptiers.

There are some tricks you can use to mitigate uptier potentials such as knowing "meta" BR ranges for instance.

The most frequent downtiers I get are from USSR and US 6.3 because German 5.3 is extremely popular thanks to the Tigers and Panthers there. The Matchmaking prioritizes reducing queue time above all else. If you know what BR ranges are popular and people are queuing heavily into, you can play around that to a degree.

You still still absolutely get uptiered playing USSR/US 6.3 (7.3 is especially not fun for US 6.3), but you have better odds of not being uptiered there thanks to German 5.3.
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ErickaUnlimited May 31, 2023 @ 3:16am 
No.
You definitely FEEL like you get up-tiered more often than when you do with a premium account. But it's not something that always happens when playing on a standard account. It wouldn't be surprising (or far-fetched) to believe some form of internal system is in place to alter the "weight" of a player's tank to ensure higher placement in a battle's Battle Rating. (World of Tanks does this, afterall)
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Jaes May 31, 2023 @ 3:40am 
As someone that buys yearly Premium, I can 100% guarantee I get no special protections against uptiers.

There are some tricks you can use to mitigate uptier potentials such as knowing "meta" BR ranges for instance.

The most frequent downtiers I get are from USSR and US 6.3 because German 5.3 is extremely popular thanks to the Tigers and Panthers there. The Matchmaking prioritizes reducing queue time above all else. If you know what BR ranges are popular and people are queuing heavily into, you can play around that to a degree.

You still still absolutely get uptiered playing USSR/US 6.3 (7.3 is especially not fun for US 6.3), but you have better odds of not being uptiered there thanks to German 5.3.
LonelyCookie May 31, 2023 @ 3:50am 
Maybe yes, maybe not.

But as someone who frequently switches between Premium and "Free"...It definitely feels like it and last people you should believe is Gaijin (and their mods).

Especially if you get new stock vehicles, youre basically guaranteed to have full uptiers until the free repairs run out with maybe one "own" tier or downtier to make you less mad xD
Last edited by LonelyCookie; May 31, 2023 @ 3:56am
Originally posted by Jaes:
As someone that buys yearly Premium, I can 100% guarantee I get no special protections against uptiers.

There are some tricks you can use to mitigate uptier potentials such as knowing "meta" BR ranges for instance.

The most frequent downtiers I get are from USSR and US 6.3 because German 5.3 is extremely popular thanks to the Tigers and Panthers there. The Matchmaking prioritizes reducing queue time above all else. If you know what BR ranges are popular and people are queuing heavily into, you can play around that to a degree.

You still still absolutely get uptiered playing USSR/US 6.3 (7.3 is especially not fun for US 6.3), but you have better odds of not being uptiered there thanks to German 5.3.

I'm more referencing the current fiasco going on with economy/greed of gaijin and the terrible attempt at a PR action to "clear up" the furious playerbase the last few days. But I do know games have that capability when money is involved [and the game leads can and will happily lie about if it's actually happening or not. Wargaming got caught in several lies in the past, as has gaijin with their balancing. The most notorious for lying though I can remember is RETO, though with their in-game sales prior to their bankruptcy, but i digress.

As far as the actual legitimacy of it all involving the fairness of the B.R gameplay, as a premium player who buys 3 months, goes 6 months and then buys 3 months again... as well as a primarily german player who spends most time in the 5.3-6.7 range:

it's a mixed bag.... generally speaking i only ever see the bottom of the tier-listing when not on a premium account. When on a premium account It was certainly less often I saw my tanks on the bottom of the B.R listing (generally got middle of the road or top rank), but, it isn't a thing that always happens. Like I said, it just feels like it's a biased 'weight' system, similar to how Wargaming pulls their tank weight to favor premium players to ensure they have more competitive/fun engagements while pushing free players to purchase premium due to increased grind... (been part of that nightmare since 2011.)


as you said, It most likely is just the player variation due to favorites being primarily Germany.... but it's hard to believe that when most games are filled to the brim with T-34s and T-44s in my experience (not a gesture at saying it's a thing that happens game-wide, just personal experience.)
Last edited by TTV HellBoundLycan; May 31, 2023 @ 3:53am
Chusma con Armas May 31, 2023 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by Smol Astolfo Gaming:
The premium account i get is from a set so i have not really pay for it, but during that time i always got down tier. Ever since the premium account stop every game i must get up tier. Sometime even 6.0 in 8.0-9.0 games. Is this a way gaijin fouce us to pay?

You will be up tiered and up cheated every match you leave the game or buy premium everything to stop the frustration. that is the business model.
Originally posted by Aaron:
Originally posted by TTV HellBoundLycan:
if you're talking about my profile picture it's the Razgriz Knight emblem from Ace Combat 5, an aviation game from the playstation 2.
Im not talking about you....
then my apologies, as the other emblems/profile pictures look like just random weeb stuff. and a cookie with glasses.
Nekoni·Hajimi May 31, 2023 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by Jaes:
As someone that buys yearly Premium, I can 100% guarantee I get no special protections against uptiers.

There are some tricks you can use to mitigate uptier potentials such as knowing "meta" BR ranges for instance.

The most frequent downtiers I get are from USSR and US 6.3 because German 5.3 is extremely popular thanks to the Tigers and Panthers there. The Matchmaking prioritizes reducing queue time above all else. If you know what BR ranges are popular and people are queuing heavily into, you can play around that to a degree.

You still still absolutely get uptiered playing USSR/US 6.3 (7.3 is especially not fun for US 6.3), but you have better odds of not being uptiered there thanks to German 5.3.
Yes i was playing US 6.3, then after my premium account ended shortly i got my first US 6.7 tank (T26E5). After that i only get up tier, but i saw some 6.7 US tank (T34) also appear in 6.3, so i though it may related to the premium account. Thank you for answering my question
mogami_99 May 31, 2023 @ 10:06am 
I have a premium account. I am uptiered most battles unless I play tier V BR 7.0 where it is impossible to be uptiered.
4.7-face Moffits 5.0 Prinz Eugen 5.7
5.0/5.3-face Helena and the Russian alphabet CL 6.0
5.7- above plus Des Moines and BB
6.0-7.0 BB
Last edited by mogami_99; May 31, 2023 @ 10:07am
๖ۣۜSIcario May 31, 2023 @ 10:11am 
P2W confirmed
Chad Chungus May 31, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
i feel like i get uptiered more often with a premium account

almost all of my matches are like that

i would love to just be same-tiered, not even down
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