how bad the grind is

[kunatics]

tell me how bad the grind is the protester says it's bad but i don't get how bad it is

[dan]

It's like every other f2p game

[John McLuck]

If you really want to get to top BR as in 10.0+, you are potentially looking at months of grinding depending on how many hours you are prepared to spend each week. Even with premium and premium vehicles. And that is just for 1 single tech tree line.

[Conan]

Originally posted by John McLuck:

If you really want to get to top BR as in 10.0+, you are potentially looking at months of grinding depending on how many hours you are prepared to spend each week. Even with premium and premium vehicles. And that is just for 1 single tech tree line.

I got almost 300 hours and I'm only at like rank IV man

[Afonia]

Originally posted by dan:

It's like every other f2p game

No
If you compare with similar games (world of tanks, world of warships) is ten times worse. I'm talking about economics. War Thunder close to the worst Asian mobile games.

[xCrossFaith]

Bad enough for the current situation to be a thing

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by Afonia:

Originally posted by dan:

It's like every other f2p game

No
If you compare with similar games (world of tanks, world of warships) is ten times worse. I'm talking about economics. War Thunder close to the worst Asian mobile games.

War Thunder also has 3.5 times more vehicles than WoT though...

[halolo39]

lower tiers are alright even with casual play, as you start going up the vehicle ranks it starts to have a steep climb in research and cost, of course if you only play a single nation you're arent that affected as much as me who plays all nations. the economy on the higher ranks are quite bad especially for tank focused players as their cost add up heaps compared to planes/navy focused players.

[MANKIND]

Originally posted by dan:

It's like every other f2p game

no its not, even with premium account and premium vehicles you will have a bad time grinding, unless you dont have a life, and even so you will. So don't come around telling bs to new guys, I would NOT recommend this game to ANY new player EVER. One time I tried calling some friends, the only one that plays with me literally told me "bro how can you even try to bait people into this trap". Thats how bad it is

[Afonia]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Originally posted by Afonia:

No
If you compare with similar games (world of tanks, world of warships) is ten times worse. I'm talking about economics. War Thunder close to the worst Asian mobile games.

War Thunder also has 3.5 times more vehicles than WoT though...

And?
For example, the developers of world of warships posted a meme about the crappy economy of War Thunder and gave players a premium account.

War Thunder developers will not give 3 days premium to anyone, even after a giant scandal.

Or the world of tanks. They reduced the prices. Most expensive premium tanks cost 1763 rubles ($22), SU-39 now costs 4549 rubles ($56)

[Caridor]

Originally posted by dan:

It's like every other f2p game

200 hours and I'm on tier 4 of 10.

Each tier takes longer than the last. Tanks at this stage are taking hundreds of matches to unlock. To unlock all the F2P tanks for a single faction, I would bet it takes at least 1000 hours and I suspect that is conservative.

This is not like every free to play game out there. It is at the extreme end of torturously grindy.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

I play for 10 years, i play 8 nations at 11.7, my advice to you , is no rush, just play to enjoy.
If you rush the grind you will regret.

[CPT. Doc]

I would advise not trying to grind all trees at once, some people that I know did that then complained about the grind. I find grinding new top tier vehicles to take about a week if I tried and that is with working overtime at work (10 hour days).

I can see though that for some players the grind can be bad, if you only want to play lets say one mode and really like one vehicle. When I want to grind I would try a few ways to see what was most efficient or if I need to pick something that I have fun playing.

If you fill that reasonable is unlocking all 1000+ vehicles in game in like a year then I dont know what to tell you.

[DieuDuJambon]

i would say like runescape but 3x it would be easier to reach 99 in everything then finish all the tech tree lol

[Xale86]

I have over 2k hours in this game. I am almost done with the USSR/Russian tree, (20k RP left for the Pantsir). I have 3 other ground trees at BR 8.0, 2 plane trees at 5.0 and 1 ship tree at 5.0. It litterally took me several years to get through a single tree, while exploring a few others.

I play with a friend. he focused only on the USSR ground tree to have any kind of relevant progress. He got to BR 10.0 in roughly 2 years. Also with premium, but he plays more casual then me.

The grind gets exponetionally longer with each rank. You will get nowhere past rank 3 by playing casually. Rank 4 is when F2P becomes unviable and you need premium account.

The economy and grind is getting worse every year. Vehicles are getting added contantly while the game by now is bloated by over 2000 vehicles allready. Ways of getting points are getting removed from the game, for example, you used to get points for bouncing shots, using your armor. That got removed along with alot of other nerfs. Spotting is useless nowdays and the points earned have diminishing returns the longer and better you are in a match. You need to do more to get less.

Why? Coz they want you to buy 60€ vehicle packs to help with the grind and SL farming. And everytime they release a new one, everyone buys them. Teams are full of them. People have no sense of value. You can buy several game franchises on steam sales for 60€ instead of a pixel vehicle you get bored of in a week. Its insane.

I hope this helps, I'm being honest and real with you so you know what to expect. The game is great mechanically, and can be both bun as well as very frustrating. But it is twisted and molded into being a money making grind machine by Gaijin.

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

Pretty bad for most modes and countries. At the early ranks, you will probably fly through with or without premium if you get the basic concepts behind vehicles. It's when you hit mid tier that issues start to pop up, like managing your repair costs, crewing costs, costs to buy new vehicles, and of course the cost to research said vehicles.

It gets to be a lot. Around 6.7+ you're gonna be paying a lot for individual vehicles, probably close to 800k-1mil SL based on the country. And it is gonna slow your grind a lot, even if you pay for premium which increases your gain. You can look at some of the other threads and see people having really good games, the ones that come once in a while, and earning really poorly when it comes to research or SL.