There is no such thing as a "review bomb"

[Falmingkitter]

This term was invented by game companies to dismiss negative reviews. Every single person who has played a game is entitled to an honest review. If a company has done something to invoke a lot of negative reviews, that is the fault of the game company and not any person or group of people.

[shipdesignerdude]

It's a review bomb when people are actively encouraging others to leave negative reviews. This is the exact definition of a review bomb, with an orchestrated and organized attempt to bring down the review status of a game.

[tank fan]

Its more that any other feedback or communication has been ignored for extensive periods of time. What many players have perceived as years. Finally players have found a channel that results in an immediate although poor response and are further encouraged by the company itself.

[shipdesignerdude]

Originally posted by wut up:

Its more that any other feedback or communication has been ignored for extensive periods of time. What many players have perceived as years. Finally players have found a channel that results in an immediate although poor response and are further encouraged by the company itself.

I mean, aside from the very poor response that means nothing in the scale of what's actually going to affect the game, they've said they are going to change the economy in the next major update, which is what I thought was the primary goal of this nonsense.

[Judge Dread]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Originally posted by wut up:

Its more that any other feedback or communication has been ignored for extensive periods of time. What many players have perceived as years. Finally players have found a channel that results in an immediate although poor response and are further encouraged by the company itself.

I mean, aside from the very poor response that means nothing in the scale of what's actually going to affect the game, they've said they are going to change the economy in the next major update, which is what I thought was the primary goal of this nonsense.

Allot of people have been trying to tell Gaijin to stop doing certain stuff for a long time now. Yet they insist on doing the things people don't want so here we are. If you really wanna call it review bombing. They deserve it either way when they blatantly ignore feedback then go on to gaslight the playerbase with an outrageously arrogant forum response.

At this point. It's not about Gaijin rolling back their decimation of the economy. It's about rolling back years of bad economy changes that they've shoehorned in. Among other things.

[KissHUN *;--;*]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

It's a review bomb when people are actively encouraging others to leave negative reviews. This is the exact definition of a review bomb, with an orchestrated and organized attempt to bring down the review status of a game.

this would be only true IF the reviews are all OFF topic and has nothing to do with the game... but thats not the case.

anyone who bothers himself to read a couple of WT reviews from the last 72 hour can se that these reviews are mostly talking about the in game economy or the garbage gameplay, which is part of the game, which means its ON topic.

plain simple.

[tank fan]

They have piled on a ton of "stealth" economy changes buried in documents that have made repair costs sky rocket, added to the overall "grind" and lowered SL multipliers

Were going to rapidly continue this direction with "MAY ECONOMY CHANGES" that sugar coated a ton of SL modifier reductions to free vehicles added on more expenses for the tier 4+ vehicles to make it even harder to progress.

Ignored feedback and then finally postponed changes after mixed recent steam reviews but did so in a condescending post which just added fuel to the fire. Now there is vague signs they may delist from steam.

The higher tiers are mostly players playing one premium vehicle and abandoning the match after the first death to stem the SL bleed leading to lopsided "battles" where instead of objectives its over in the first few minutes

Time in match "upper limits" make it so even preforming very very well 5:1 KDA etc is offset with one bad match.

[shipdesignerdude]

"A review bomb is an Internet phenomenon in which a large number of people or a few people with multiple accounts[1] post negative user reviews online in an attempt to harm the sales or popularity of a product, a service, or a business.[2] While a large number of negative reviews may simply be the result of a large number of customers independently criticizing something for poor quality, a review bomb may also be driven by a desire to draw attention to perceived political or cultural issues,[3] perhaps especially if the vendor seems unresponsive or inaccessible to direct feedback."

You can deflect all you want, this is a textbook example of a review bomb. The "perhaps especially if the vendor seems unresponsive or inaccessible to direct feedback" seems pretty relevant right now. A review bomb isn't defined by the quality or content of posts, it's an organized movement to lower the rating of a game.

[Mania]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

It's a review bomb when people are actively encouraging others to leave negative reviews. This is the exact definition of a review bomb, with an orchestrated and organized attempt to bring down the review status of a game.

You know people have, minds, right?

You cannot force individuals to do something they don't want (without coercion, but that's irrelevant considering no one is being coerced into writing a review,)

It's 100% clear that everyone had the same thoughts, and only now did those thoughts sync up. While yes, review bombing is orchestrated, it doesn't take away from the fact that the way the playerbase feels is genuine, and it took an orchestrated response from us to tell the devs to stop their insane money plays at our expense.

[Spork.monkey]

Originally posted by Falmingkitter:

This term was invented by game companies to dismiss negative reviews. Every single person who has played a game is entitled to an honest review. If a company has done something to invoke a lot of negative reviews, that is the fault of the game company and not any person or group of people.

it is a review bomb, lol. i'm not gonna argue whether its positive or not, but theres certainly a review bombing occuring

[Judge Dread]

I don't think the argument about whether or not review bombing exists is what's important. What's important is whether or not it's warranted. In this case. It absolutely is deserved. Gaijin had every opportunity to avoid this by listening to community feedback, but they choose not to.

[粪甲虫]

saw many copy pasted negative reviews. all from random bot looking accounts. not saying they're all bots but what would you call that? original criticism? because copy pasting someones review is not original. also im sure some dude out there has a bot connected to a couple hundred steam accounts that he can do whatever he wants to do with em. in fact id bet money that theres many people who have that.

[All1]

Cool discussion and all but; my negative review was sincere.

[Judge Dread]

Originally posted by Good Divine Blinding Light:

saw many copy pasted negative reviews. all from random bot looking accounts. not saying they're all bots but what would you call that? original criticism? because copy pasting someones review is not original. also im sure some dude out there has a bot connected to a couple hundred steam accounts that he can do whatever he wants to do with em. in fact id bet money that theres many people who have that.

yeah and how many BS positive reviews are there that consist of nothing but chicken recipes and copy paste nonsense? Goes both ways buddy.

[粪甲虫]

Originally posted by Judge Dread:

Originally posted by Good Divine Blinding Light:

saw many copy pasted negative reviews. all from random bot looking accounts. not saying they're all bots but what would you call that? original criticism? because copy pasting someones review is not original. also im sure some dude out there has a bot connected to a couple hundred steam accounts that he can do whatever he wants to do with em. in fact id bet money that theres many people who have that.

yeah and how many BS positive reviews are there that consist of nothing but chicken recipes and copy paste nonsense? Goes both ways buddy.

never said it didn't its just silly to act like theres no such thing as a review bomb. very few people care about steam reviews when you see that ♥♥♥♥. pretty sure thats why steam implemented a feature that allows you to filter the reviews. its rare when an actual bad game is getting good reviews most the time its an honest reflection of the quality of the game. in other cases its a gripe players have with something about the game so they negatively review the game en masse, thats why youll see many 10+ year old games with good/decent reputations getting overwhelming negative reviews in the recent reviews tab.

[madpoet]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

It's a review bomb when people are actively encouraging others to leave negative reviews. This is the exact definition of a review bomb, with an orchestrated and organized attempt to bring down the review status of a game.

That's not a review bomb, that's just coordination between players who're all pissed as hell and being directed to an outlet. A lot of people might not have considered leaving a negative review, but realized they should when they saw everyone else doing it. Calling it a "review bomb" takes away from the legitimacy of it.