Make the Me-262 A1/U4 7.3, or ATLEAST 7.0

[CheetosInChocolate]

Ok so essentially, we have an Me-262 (very VERY fast compared to 6.7s), with a 50MM cannon that can have up to 137MM of pen, or HE rounds with Flak, and it's 6.7!?

There's literally 0 reason to every pit this thing against prop planes, and 6.7 tanks, in both up, and down tiers, it ruins every1 else's day.

Idk if the HEs still flak, but they atleast used to, regardless it's still OP

[ctompkin7]

if you flew ME262s you would know they are not strong, they take very long to even get to speed LET ALONE HOLD IT. most ME262s really can only fly efficiently at 600-735KPH, if your having trouble even with the 50MM version may god help you.

If an ME262 is up to speed you wont catch it, but if it just turns 1 time its speed is gone, its like a MIG21 but with no missiles and less acceleration.

[mogami_99]

Is this another put something that can kill me to a place where it can't kill me thread?
Or put something that I can't kill with to where i can kill things.

[Eftwyrd]

the shells have never been anything but HE... what are you smoking? germany didnt have proximity fuses and its an autocannon with no method of adjusting a timed fuse if one were loaded, it is and always has been just an HE shell

[DevilDaRebel]

Everyone, boo this man!

[CheetosInChocolate]

Originally posted by ctompkin7:

if you flew ME262s you would know they are not strong, they take very long to even get to speed LET ALONE HOLD IT. most ME262s really can only fly efficiently at 600-735KPH, if your having trouble even with the 50MM version may god help you.

If an ME262 is up to speed you wont catch it, but if it just turns 1 time its speed is gone, its like a MIG21 but with no missiles and less acceleration.

I once killed an Me-262 in a P-36G, cause he tried to turnfight me.
The Me-262 is stupidly OP, Germans are just normally dumb.

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

the shells have never been anything but HE... what are you smoking? germany didnt have proximity fuses and its an autocannon with no method of adjusting a timed fuse if one were loaded, it is and always has been just an HE shell

Proxy and Flak are not the same thing.

[[Uziel]

Very stupid "germany suffers" tipe idea

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

the shells have never been anything but HE... what are you smoking? germany didnt have proximity fuses and its an autocannon with no method of adjusting a timed fuse if one were loaded, it is and always has been just an HE shell

Proxy and Flak are not the same thing.

Flak are AA shells, typically high explosive fragmentary, as i have explained it is neither proxy or timed fuse so do you care to explain how you believe it to be any different to any other HE...? do you perhaps mean Minengeschoß which is something completely different just meaning it has more HE than average for a shell its size? regardless of what form they take a direct hit from an explosive shell that large is not something most aircraft will survive so i am yet confused about what magical advantage you believe it has

[Kogoro]

I know what the OP is talking about, in a GRB match this plane was swooping and quite effectively taking out many tanks, it was some time ago so I can't remember what plane I was in but I couldn't do much to take him out, of course this person was more the exception because in the right hands it is devastating, although you might be able to say that with most vehicles.

[cjl1w4g2]

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

Originally posted by ctompkin7:

if you flew ME262s you would know they are not strong, they take very long to even get to speed LET ALONE HOLD IT. most ME262s really can only fly efficiently at 600-735KPH, if your having trouble even with the 50MM version may god help you.

If an ME262 is up to speed you wont catch it, but if it just turns 1 time its speed is gone, its like a MIG21 but with no missiles and less acceleration.

I once killed an Me-262 in a P-36G, cause he tried to turnfight me.
The Me-262 is stupidly OP, Germans are just normally dumb.

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

the shells have never been anything but HE... what are you smoking? germany didnt have proximity fuses and its an autocannon with no method of adjusting a timed fuse if one were loaded, it is and always has been just an HE shell

Proxy and Flak are not the same thing.

man, what you on about, Me 262 is dumb

[Neckstabba]

My F84 ♥♥♥♥♥ on any Me262 and is at the same time better at CAS. Guess Germany truly suffers. What a dumb post.

[CheetosInChocolate]

Originally posted by IR9 Neckstabba:

My F84 ♥♥♥♥♥ on any Me262 and is at the same time better at CAS. Guess Germany truly suffers. What a dumb post.

you call this a dumb post, yet you also say Germany suffers. no more needs to be said.

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

Proxy and Flak are not the same thing.

Flak are AA shells, typically high explosive fragmentary, as i have explained it is neither proxy or timed fuse so do you care to explain how you believe it to be any different to any other HE...? do you perhaps mean Minengeschoß which is something completely different just meaning it has more HE than average for a shell its size? regardless of what form they take a direct hit from an explosive shell that large is not something most aircraft will survive so i am yet confused about what magical advantage you believe it has

Flak has nothing to do how much HE filler is in a shell, flak is timed, or altitude activated.
I'm too lazy to google if the 50MM having flak is historically accurate, but I do know it used to have flak a few weeks ago atleast.

I haven't been on in a week, so I haven't seen if it still has flak yet.

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

Originally posted by IR9 Neckstabba:

My F84 ♥♥♥♥♥ on any Me262 and is at the same time better at CAS. Guess Germany truly suffers. What a dumb post.

you call this a dumb post, yet you also say Germany suffers. no more needs to be said.

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Flak are AA shells, typically high explosive fragmentary, as i have explained it is neither proxy or timed fuse so do you care to explain how you believe it to be any different to any other HE...? do you perhaps mean Minengeschoß which is something completely different just meaning it has more HE than average for a shell its size? regardless of what form they take a direct hit from an explosive shell that large is not something most aircraft will survive so i am yet confused about what magical advantage you believe it has

Flak has nothing to do how much HE filler is in a shell, flak is timed, or altitude activated.
I'm too lazy to google if the 50MM having flak is historically accurate, but I do know it used to have flak a few weeks ago atleast.

I haven't been on in a week, so I haven't seen if it still has flak yet.

altitude activated shells are not used in aircraft that could be flying at that altitude... and as already explained there is no mechanism to set a timed fuse in an aircraft mounted autocannon... it would have to be set on the ground when it was loaded, i dont know what you are smoking but it must be the good stuff

[Neckstabba]

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

Originally posted by IR9 Neckstabba:

My F84 ♥♥♥♥♥ on any Me262 and is at the same time better at CAS. Guess Germany truly suffers. What a dumb post.

you call this a dumb post, yet you also say Germany suffers. no more needs to be said.

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Flak are AA shells, typically high explosive fragmentary, as i have explained it is neither proxy or timed fuse so do you care to explain how you believe it to be any different to any other HE...? do you perhaps mean Minengeschoß which is something completely different just meaning it has more HE than average for a shell its size? regardless of what form they take a direct hit from an explosive shell that large is not something most aircraft will survive so i am yet confused about what magical advantage you believe it has

Flak has nothing to do how much HE filler is in a shell, flak is timed, or altitude activated.
I'm too lazy to google if the 50MM having flak is historically accurate, but I do know it used to have flak a few weeks ago atleast.

I haven't been on in a week, so I haven't seen if it still has flak yet.

It is a dumb post. You want the Me262 at 7.0 or 7.3 while the F84, who sits at 7.0, ♥♥♥♥♥ on it all day, every day. The 7.7 F84 ♥♥♥♥♥ on every other Me262 too.

You cry that its OP and put it at a BR where there are way stronger multirole planes.

F80 also ♥♥♥♥♥ on the Me262. You cry about the German planes when the US planes beat them in every way.

[CheetosInChocolate]

Originally posted by IR9 Neckstabba:

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

you call this a dumb post, yet you also say Germany suffers. no more needs to be said.




Flak has nothing to do how much HE filler is in a shell, flak is timed, or altitude activated.
I'm too lazy to google if the 50MM having flak is historically accurate, but I do know it used to have flak a few weeks ago atleast.

I haven't been on in a week, so I haven't seen if it still has flak yet.

It is a dumb post. You want the Me262 at 7.0 or 7.3 while the F84, who sits at 7.0, ♥♥♥♥♥ on it all day, every day. The 7.7 F84 ♥♥♥♥♥ on every other Me262 too.

You cry that its OP and put it at a BR where there are way stronger multirole planes.

F80 also ♥♥♥♥♥ on the Me262. You cry about the German planes when the US planes beat them in every way.

The solution is BR decompression. Jets should never meet prop planes, aside from planes like the P-59 which is slower than Fw-190s and Mustangs.

Sadly the snail doesn't like br decompression.

In the end, the Me-262 A1/U4 is better as garbage, than op.

[CheetosInChocolate]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Originally posted by CheetosInChocolate™℠©®℗:

you call this a dumb post, yet you also say Germany suffers. no more needs to be said.




Flak has nothing to do how much HE filler is in a shell, flak is timed, or altitude activated.
I'm too lazy to google if the 50MM having flak is historically accurate, but I do know it used to have flak a few weeks ago atleast.

I haven't been on in a week, so I haven't seen if it still has flak yet.

altitude activated shells are not used in aircraft that could be flying at that altitude... and as already explained there is no mechanism to set a timed fuse in an aircraft mounted autocannon... it would have to be set on the ground when it was loaded, i dont know what you are smoking but it must be the good stuff

I never said aircraft had flak IRL, I said the Me-262 has/d flak ingame.