Why does Russia need more vehicles?

[DaJackal]

Seriously, why?

[shipdesignerdude]

Originally posted by N.F.C. PepeUltimate:

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

2PL is 2019, no?

PUMA is the same story as 2s38 regarding turret profile, except the PUMA was hilariously undertiered.

I personally do not see the addition of the F-14B, which is just an improved version of the most versatile aircraft in the game, as very Russian Bias either.


Not to mention the plethora of broken squadron vehicles from other countries. The Hunter F.58, A-4E etc.

US dominates BVR no doubt.

about that but the A-4E being OP and the F58 LMAO no hard no.

2S is amphibious and can also hull down the puma cant. 2S also is a premium with better repair bills then a PUMA so its less punishing if you die

in terms of premium planes that were recently released the MIG-23ML is by far the best out performing the F4S

now in terms of US getting a F-14B yeah i was hoping they were going to give russia a BVR plane such as the MIG-25 but sadly these dev's dont know what they are doing and their garbage econ and recent rollback prove it. but dont worry as soon as russia gets the planes that can compete i guarantee they will out preform the US planes in maneuverability

in terms of dogfighting russia is going to be superior with the MIG-29 ive flown it and its one of the most maneuverable jets i own and im easily out maneuvering F-16's

same could be said about the mig-23ML and the F4S MIG-23ML will out preform it in terms of maneuverability and Radar missiles. russian missiles are extremely fast.

but i can boil down my arguement to RU company RU bias very easily.

F.58 had to get an almost immediate BR raise because of how stupid busted it was at 9.3.
A-4E gets 5 bullpups and flares at 8.7, compared to the TT version getting no flares and 3 bullpups, not to mention Russia doesn't even have a comparable aircraft at 8.7.

I'll just boil down my argument to premiums are bias, not russia. At least I got hard data.

[shipdesignerdude]

Originally posted by Mollerz:

I mean it's not going to happen in reality, so they have to have it virtually.

Now would be a good time to mention Germany technically has the best aircraft in the game....

If Gajin was really Russian bias they could've just copy pasted the MiG-29 into Germany. But they didn't. They actually slightly buffed the MiG-29 for Germany.

[N.F.C. PepeUltimate]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Originally posted by N.F.C. PepeUltimate:

US dominates BVR no doubt.

about that but the A-4E being OP and the F58 LMAO no hard no.

2S is amphibious and can also hull down the puma cant. 2S also is a premium with better repair bills then a PUMA so its less punishing if you die

in terms of premium planes that were recently released the MIG-23ML is by far the best out performing the F4S

now in terms of US getting a F-14B yeah i was hoping they were going to give russia a BVR plane such as the MIG-25 but sadly these dev's dont know what they are doing and their garbage econ and recent rollback prove it. but dont worry as soon as russia gets the planes that can compete i guarantee they will out preform the US planes in maneuverability

in terms of dogfighting russia is going to be superior with the MIG-29 ive flown it and its one of the most maneuverable jets i own and im easily out maneuvering F-16's

same could be said about the mig-23ML and the F4S MIG-23ML will out preform it in terms of maneuverability and Radar missiles. russian missiles are extremely fast.

but i can boil down my arguement to RU company RU bias very easily.

F.58 had to get an almost immediate BR raise because of how stupid busted it was at 9.3.
A-4E gets 5 bullpups and flares at 8.7, compared to the TT version getting no flares and 3 bullpups, not to mention Russia doesn't even have a comparable aircraft at 8.7.

I'll just boil down my argument to premiums are bias, not russia. At least I got hard data.

you conviently leave out the SU-25 BR raise when that plane was at 9.7 with all aspects a ♥♥♥♥ ton of flares can out manuever the A10 can also tank multiple MISSILES. but dont worry i guess its fine it went up by only .3 no that plane is still busted as all hell.

MIG-15 isnt a bad plane and you will out maneuver a A4 the A4 will break wings trying to dog fight a mig-15 and the A-4 has aim 9'bs which are garbage only way you die to a AIM9b is if you are going straight.

russia has access to the Mig-21 as early as 9.3 and they are nimble little planes and extremely manueverable my top planes are mig-21's.

but yeah SU-25 will rain king at 10.0 especially during downtiers i cant name a stronger low tier attacker then that it will smoke a tram and a A10 in terms of performance and durability.

[N.F.C. PepeUltimate]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Originally posted by Mollerz:

I mean it's not going to happen in reality, so they have to have it virtually.

Now would be a good time to mention Germany technically has the best aircraft in the game....

If Gajin was really Russian bias they could've just copy pasted the MiG-29 into Germany. But they didn't. They actually slightly buffed the MiG-29 for Germany.

and? the difference is .#'s of a second russia is going to end up getting different variants of the MIG-29 that germany wont have such as the M and the K

does germany have a Yak-141 a prototype plane that never really saw service? no

where are germany's amraams that are supposed to go on the F4F maybe they will decide to give germany a F4F late who knows?

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Originally posted by Mollerz:

I mean it's not going to happen in reality, so they have to have it virtually.

Now would be a good time to mention Germany technically has the best aircraft in the game....

If Gajin was really Russian bias they could've just copy pasted the MiG-29 into Germany. But they didn't. They actually slightly buffed the MiG-29 for Germany.

Now is the time to tell you real life is better than this dumb ass game.

[Shyue Chou]

There is probably a large Russian playerbase given the origins of the game, so, it is probably to cater to them.

[Append]

Originally posted by MrCommie:

Still waiting what makes soviet/russia lineups op and biased, you are failing to provide that...

*Looks up Nation's Win Rate stats*

*sees RU with 72.3% WR while many Allied nations are mostly at 40%*

Uh huh. Sounds bout right

[<I^_^]I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I[^_^]>]

Originally posted by sunerh:

because they dont have much wheeled tanks =)

the BTR-80A is actually their first modern wheeled APC while the other nations already have plents of them.

Its just a 30mm autocannon and no missiles i wouldnt expect it to be super effective but i apreciate it since its the first step into more modern BTR variants.

[dan]

Originally posted by DaJackal:

Originally posted by ANG81ofh1s_Mercy:

Such a dumb response, go look at it yourself and tell me why.

You're saying this BTR will be below BR 6, you are stupid.

Well looks like it's 5.7

[♡ Melody ♡]

Originally posted by ANG81ofh1s_Mercy:

bc why italy got breda, britain got concept, germany got puma, and why ussr cant get his btr? Me personally, i got tired of being destryoed by bredas , concept teams , when i am just kv1c trying escape the spawn in the begining of the battle.

you have multiple autocannon vics

[shipdesignerdude]

Originally posted by N.F.C. PepeUltimate:

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

F.58 had to get an almost immediate BR raise because of how stupid busted it was at 9.3.
A-4E gets 5 bullpups and flares at 8.7, compared to the TT version getting no flares and 3 bullpups, not to mention Russia doesn't even have a comparable aircraft at 8.7.

I'll just boil down my argument to premiums are bias, not russia. At least I got hard data.

you conviently leave out the SU-25 BR raise when that plane was at 9.7 with all aspects a ♥♥♥♥ ton of flares can out manuever the A10 can also tank multiple MISSILES. but dont worry i guess its fine it went up by only .3 no that plane is still busted as all hell.

MIG-15 isnt a bad plane and you will out maneuver a A4 the A4 will break wings trying to dog fight a mig-15 and the A-4 has aim 9'bs which are garbage only way you die to a AIM9b is if you are going straight.

russia has access to the Mig-21 as early as 9.3 and they are nimble little planes and extremely manueverable my top planes are mig-21's.

but yeah SU-25 will rain king at 10.0 especially during downtiers i cant name a stronger low tier attacker then that it will smoke a tram and a A10 in terms of performance and durability.

You're right, I did leave out the A-10. Another busted premium that was just as bad on introduction as the Su-25. A-10 has much better missiles at only .3 BR higher, Idk man.....

Germany gets the same MiG-15 as Russia, I'm starting to think Germany gets the bias here.

The early MiG'-21s aren't that good either, because they get the 9b's, "which are garbage", coupled with one of the hardest to use cannons at the BR.

[Lunovus]

Originally posted by DaJackal:

Seriously, why?

The same reason the Germans and the US need more vehicles.
Or any other nation.

[dan]

Seethe

[N.F.C. PepeUltimate]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Originally posted by N.F.C. PepeUltimate:

you conviently leave out the SU-25 BR raise when that plane was at 9.7 with all aspects a ♥♥♥♥ ton of flares can out manuever the A10 can also tank multiple MISSILES. but dont worry i guess its fine it went up by only .3 no that plane is still busted as all hell.

MIG-15 isnt a bad plane and you will out maneuver a A4 the A4 will break wings trying to dog fight a mig-15 and the A-4 has aim 9'bs which are garbage only way you die to a AIM9b is if you are going straight.

russia has access to the Mig-21 as early as 9.3 and they are nimble little planes and extremely manueverable my top planes are mig-21's.

but yeah SU-25 will rain king at 10.0 especially during downtiers i cant name a stronger low tier attacker then that it will smoke a tram and a A10 in terms of performance and durability.

You're right, I did leave out the A-10. Another busted premium that was just as bad on introduction as the Su-25. A-10 has much better missiles at only .3 BR higher, Idk man.....

Germany gets the same MiG-15 as Russia, I'm starting to think Germany gets the bias here.

The early MiG'-21s aren't that good either, because they get the 9b's, "which are garbage", coupled with one of the hardest to use cannons at the BR.

sounds like skill issues to me if you cant outfly a A10 with a SU-25 then you are just bad plain and simple if you cant outfly a A10 with a mig-21 then you are really bad.

if this game had german BIAS then germany would have its amraams on the F4F germany would have a decent end tier AA which it does not. germany would dominate high tier like russia does which it does not.

RU dominates ground RB at 70% win rate 10.3 - 11.7 where other countries dont even come close.

RU dominates end tier air RB with a win rate in the 66% - 69%

all this data was used from the WT Data project

yeah get out of here with that RU is not bias attitude you are clearly wrong not to mention the new BTR90A is going to be a 5.7!!!!!!!!!!!!! because russia definitely fielded those in WW2.

if you cant win with this russian bias and the numbers i gave you that you can look up on the WT Data project then its a skill issue for you.

[shipdesignerdude]

Originally posted by N.F.C. PepeUltimate:

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

You're right, I did leave out the A-10. Another busted premium that was just as bad on introduction as the Su-25. A-10 has much better missiles at only .3 BR higher, Idk man.....

Germany gets the same MiG-15 as Russia, I'm starting to think Germany gets the bias here.

The early MiG'-21s aren't that good either, because they get the 9b's, "which are garbage", coupled with one of the hardest to use cannons at the BR.

sounds like skill issues to me if you cant outfly a A10 with a SU-25 then you are just bad plain and simple if you cant outfly a A10 with a mig-21 then you are really bad.

if this game had german BIAS then germany would have its amraams on the F4F germany would have a decent end tier AA which it does not. germany would dominate high tier like russia does which it does not.

RU dominates ground RB at 70% win rate 10.3 - 11.7 where other countries dont even come close.

RU dominates end tier air RB with a win rate in the 66% - 69%

all this data was used from the WT Data project

yeah get out of here with that RU is not bias attitude you are clearly wrong not to mention the new BTR90A is going to be a 5.7!!!!!!!!!!!!! because russia definitely fielded those in WW2.

if you cant win with this russian bias and the numbers i gave you that you can look up on the WT Data project then its a skill issue for you.

If you think the BTR playing at 5.7 is bad, boy do I have news for you about Sweden's lineups.

And I'm the one flying the A-10 BTW. Before every game was EC I could get 5 kills pretty easily, and most of them are your Sukhoi buds.

The example of "german bias" was to just prove how bogus your claim is because of the minor subtlety between MiG-29 models that is advantageous for Germany.