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akor937 May 17, 2023 @ 7:34pm
Why does Gaijin hate the players?
I mean for real, why does gaijin hate us?
Last edited by akor937; May 17, 2023 @ 7:35pm
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UCEY May 17, 2023 @ 7:55pm 
Greed
[TW]noob™ May 17, 2023 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by Femboy Enthusiast:
Greed
yeah, they're greedy af and that's not the way to keep the players
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Star-Dust May 17, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by TWnoob™:
Originally posted by Femboy Enthusiast:
Greed
yeah, they're greedy af and that's not the way to keep the players
ngl i already left em. so ya this is one way to get rid of new players
Mollerz May 17, 2023 @ 9:18pm 
Originally posted by Venom Thanos:
It could have been something as simple as the boss grew up getting bullied or being wronged all the time, that's why he starts hating people in general, or at least a majority of them.

The salt towards their customers is pathetic and I think your take is 100% spot on.

It is very weird and off putting. But after current events in the world, it makes nothing but sense at this point.
magazine2  [developer] May 18, 2023 @ 1:39am 
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Originally posted by akor937:
I mean for real, why does gaijin hate us?

Gaijin does not hate you.
151 May 18, 2023 @ 1:43am 
Because they are greedy and nasty as ♥♥♥♥ that now money won't be enough to satisfy them. So they piss on the players for their own entertainment.

This post is going to be censored by Gaijin real soon.
Black_Fox May 18, 2023 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Originally posted by akor937:
I mean for real, why does gaijin hate us?

Gaijin does not hate you.

Would be believable if we talk about old Gaijin, but since patch 1.37 it's very obvious what they think about us players
Eftwyrd May 18, 2023 @ 1:54am 
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Why would you think they hate you, ever heard of Hanlon’s razor? It’s an adage to the effect of ‘never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity’. It’s a good rule of thumb that can be applied to both sides here.

Hyperbole, entitlement and victim complexes are the rules on this forum but for all the problems I might have with gaijin they are small niggling things I put down to the ever present incompetence of any organisation, not some kind of institutional hatred.

Meanwhile trying to sift the useful nuggets from the mountains of vitriol present here I don’t blame anyone for giving up and just not caring. Certainly from my point of view the extremists spouting their anti gaijin rhetoric are their own worst enemy completely alienating and treating the more moderate critics as the enemy while drowning out suggestions that actually might be worth considering with their all our nothing ‘if you are not with us you are against us’ approach.

From where I’m sitting many among this community make gaijin look like the lesser evil which prevents any kind of united front or meaningful discourse when I and others are called shills, bootlickers and any number of more colourful insults for daring to voice a different opinion and not immediately jumping on the hate bandwagon. Forums tend to be gathering grounds for the disaffected and I don’t claim to be any different but for the degree of dissatisfaction, so when all we see are extremist rhetoric that treats me as the enemy I can’t help but prefer the status quo
Last edited by Eftwyrd; May 18, 2023 @ 2:10am
Dimebag May 18, 2023 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Originally posted by akor937:
I mean for real, why does gaijin hate us?

Gaijin does not hate you.
Erm, yeah they do.
Increased grind with every major update.

Makes stuff cheaper.... also decreases rewards.

Playing British 7.7+ is a nightmare, even with Premium time it is rare to make a profit even from games you WIN!

Maybe stop simping and start acknowledging that you're harming the player base.
Increase rewards and make stuff cheaper, the Warthunder economy is god awful, it's a grind, not fun.
xCrossFaith May 18, 2023 @ 2:11am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Originally posted by akor937:
I mean for real, why does gaijin hate us?

Gaijin does not hate you.
Then why do most of their decisions revolve around punishing players for playing and make rewards lower when it's common knowledge among everyone involved in the game, players, devs and moderators alike, that the solution is the exact opposite?

The "he hits you because he loves you" doesn't apply anywhere, and here is not an exception
Last edited by xCrossFaith; May 18, 2023 @ 2:14am
Eftwyrd May 18, 2023 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by xCrossFaith:
Originally posted by magazine2:

Gaijin does not hate you.
Then why do most of their decisions revolve around punishing players for playing and make rewards lower?
Evidently their statistics don’t show a significant trend of people leaving when they tighten the screws compared to those who pay up. Why would you bring emotions into this? It’s nothing but a business with a decade of accumulated player retention statistics from all their past changes pushing things to the knife edge of breaking point chasing that optimal balance maximising paying customers with acceptable losses. I can’t see why they would possibly care about the individuals so long as the numbers support their decision.

For all people have a go at gaijin and their origins ironically they are an example of peak western capitalism. People are too used to being coddled by companies PR departments and their propaganda convincing them they matter. Beneath the surface they are all the same and dystopia isn’t the province of speculation, we are living it. The millions other companies pour into their public relations are just a strategic decision on the macro scale, any belief that any company cares about the individuals is deluded. You can accept your place as a faceless drone among the multitude or drive yourself to mouth frothing insanity screaming at the heavens, it makes no difference either way
Last edited by Eftwyrd; May 18, 2023 @ 2:42am
DarthBob May 18, 2023 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by Venom Thanos:
Originally posted by magazine2:

Gaijin does not hate you.
If you really like someone, you don't ever try to hurt them and tries your best to do things that makes them angry, like my gf I know she loves me because she let me f her anytime I want, we would never tryna hurt each other and I will give her all I got. I do however hate someone, whenever I sees them I filled myself with so much negative energy that I would want to hurt them or intentionally piss them off, that's apparently is something kaijin do for a long time, but this update you guys reduced the repair cost of Maus, thank you brother I will be waiting for the premium Object 770 and surrender my wallet to you.
:steamfacepalm:
151 May 18, 2023 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by Eftwyrd:
Evidently their statistics don’t show a significant trend of people leaving when they tighten the screws compared to those who pay up. Why would you bring emotions into this? It’s nothing but a business with a decade of accumulated player retention statistics from all their past changes pushing things to the knife edge of breaking point

Lmao, players compromised to gaijin's greediness simply because there aren't enough competitors that could challenge WT. Besides, the rise in player count over the years is due to those rather misleading gaijin advertisements on YouTube and other medias that folks think they can easily play with modern air and ground equipment. Business it is, yes, but in what form? Gaijin's running this in the form of a pressure test that they keep on reducing the rewards of sl vehicles, and now, even the premium ones. If you think this is a fine way to run a business from a customer's perspective, then you are either a masochist, a rich fella or someone who's got poor financial management skills.
Last edited by 151; May 18, 2023 @ 2:31am
BlueShadow125 May 18, 2023 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Dimebag:
Originally posted by magazine2:

Gaijin does not hate you.
Erm, yeah they do.
Increased grind with every major update.

Makes stuff cheaper.... also decreases rewards.

Playing British 7.7+ is a nightmare, even with Premium time it is rare to make a profit even from games you WIN!

Maybe stop simping and start acknowledging that you're harming the player base.
Increase rewards and make stuff cheaper, the Warthunder economy is god awful, it's a grind, not fun.
i like a certain degree of grind, it gives you a goal and something to work towards but this? this is too much...
Zodee May 18, 2023 @ 3:04am 
i wanted to give this game bad reviews about the economy but i remember i already gave them that a long time ago
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