Anyone else would rather crash than get killed?

[Hasheiro]

I'm petty as ♥♥♥♥! If I see a missile I know I can't dodge or my flares just aren't working, I'd just crash so they don't get the kill. My favourite thing is when 3 or more enemy's are behind me, I would fly as far as I can and then crash at the edge of the map just to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Does anyone else do this?

[Neckstabba]

I only do this to Mig players. The rest can have the kill if they want to.

If i gain a crew lock, who cares. I simply switch nations and play something else for a round.

[Neckstabba]

Publicado originalmente por mogami_99:

Publicado originalmente por Sheir0:

Well you see, when the game has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ matchmaking system I tend not to care that much about whats right, I just do whats fun for me. Tired of being locked 20km away from a f-16 or f-14.

What is the actual range such missiles can/have achieved a lock?

Depends on the missile. If you climb and theres an F14 at around 5km alt and Mach 1 and locks you from 35~ish km with TWS then have fun dodgeing that Phoenix. It goes off the rail at mach 1 and around 16km it goes pitbull - thats the moment you get a RWR. The missile is already between mach 2 or 3 and is pretty fast for its size. IOG means the missile will fly to the last location when it loses the lock and detonate there, so if you lose lock too late it will still detonate near you and your dead.

You also have to know that the F14 can switch from PD to SRC radar while the lock is active (and of course back). So notching alone is not enough without deploying chaff against a competent F14 player.

Aim7F/M can be launched at around 15km ish to a hit but 10km is often safer. 7F/M detonate after losing lock as they dont have IOG.

R27ER (the best radar missile currently) also has IOG and is much faster than 7F/M. So even if you lose lock, the missile will often kill you anyway. Around 8km is very likely to score the kill simply because its speed and even if you lose lock its still going for you.

So its not really unrealistic what OP says. If you climb you are easy prey to radar missiles. Phoenix and 7F/M's have trouble tracking enemies that are below them, but if you are climbing you are pretty much killing yourself.

[Til_Dovre_Faller]

This is stupid, but...


I have 2 times, crashed in purpose when a player has been trying to get me for an eterenty, and then gives up, and another one comes and try ans shoot me down when i am badly husrt and cant fly, then i have crashed to credit the hard worker the kill ahaha

[Sull]

Publicado originalmente por Til_Dovre_Faller:

This is stupid, but...


I have 2 times, crashed in purpose when a player has been trying to get me for an eterenty, and then gives up, and another one comes and try ans shoot me down when i am badly husrt and cant fly, then i have crashed to credit the hard worker the kill ahaha

That's pretty bro tbh, complete opposite of what OP is describing. Kudos

[Ganymedes73]

Publicado originalmente por Sheir0:

I'm petty as ♥♥♥♥! If I see a missile I know I can't dodge or my flares just aren't working, I'd just crash so they don't get the kill. My favourite thing is when 3 or more enemy's are behind me, I would fly as far as I can and then crash at the edge of the map just to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Does anyone else do this?

Look at the game/map design and matchmaking. Then you add up new players skills, combat awareness and knowledge how to counter and attactk other planes. Sometimes their crew isnt fully spaded.

Then the fight starts, you see the same players with fully spaded 'better'models with gold crew over and over. The plane you fly is a 'lesser' model regarding speed, acceleration, turning, arnament. Your crew blacks out, no g-suit or silver crew, flares etc etc

Your enemy spots you, sees what your flying. He knows that he can take you on paper. Numbers game, they take you out. Easy kill, one enemy less to worrie about.

I've got thousands of hours in WT, but this why I dont fly jets anymore or play WT for that matter. I want to have a fighing chance and dont like a game mechanic or RNG decide if i'm grind meat or not. I like my bullits, canon rounds to do damage and not spark.

And yes I crashed my planes as a rookie, now I recognize the match. Hang out on the edge of the furball. If the enemy makes mistakes, might get a kill. If not I fly back to the AF and land. In group chat: 'GG, like me to J? or some of you need grounpound?

Flares: use mixed, flare at the right time, afterburner off, 'hide' your jet behind the flare so the incoming missile will go through the flares.

Two strats,
1. preventing a lock by flaring
2. decoy for the incoming missile

[Suthirak_D42]

In ground RB, it's showing middle finger to your enemy because they will not get the score from me. I always use on enemy plane, they will waste the bomb and have to get back to the airfield while I can get new vehicle.

[RIFTMAKER]

i do the same but only if i am like the last 3 people.but understand your point. some may not like it. i dont trust the falre system anymore that much sice some changes. thrust off 1 chaff 2 flares and still nothing happens. so yeah. speeding and doing some funny stuff and wasting their time is the best i can do in the moment

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por Sull:

Douchiest scumbag behaviour by far in this game. We're all grinding away and purposely crashing hurts yourself with crew lock and the enemy being denied a kill, double negative. The only one gaining something tiny abstract way is Gaijin. Players ought to have each others back to the extent that it's possible/reasonable when we're stuck in this perpetual struggle vs the developer itself.

Doing your utmost to make sure others are suffering as bad as you perceive you are will foster such a pleasant gaming environment...

damn that's a good perspective.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por IR9 Neckstabba:

I only do this to Mig players. The rest can have the kill if they want to.

If i gain a crew lock, who cares. I simply switch nations and play something else for a round.

That's what I do too except I mostly just crash if it's the big 3 mig29, F16 and F14.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por IR9 Neckstabba:

Publicado originalmente por mogami_99:

What is the actual range such missiles can/have achieved a lock?

Depends on the missile. If you climb and theres an F14 at around 5km alt and Mach 1 and locks you from 35~ish km with TWS then have fun dodgeing that Phoenix. It goes off the rail at mach 1 and around 16km it goes pitbull - thats the moment you get a RWR. The missile is already between mach 2 or 3 and is pretty fast for its size. IOG means the missile will fly to the last location when it loses the lock and detonate there, so if you lose lock too late it will still detonate near you and your dead.

You also have to know that the F14 can switch from PD to SRC radar while the lock is active (and of course back). So notching alone is not enough without deploying chaff against a competent F14 player.

Aim7F/M can be launched at around 15km ish to a hit but 10km is often safer. 7F/M detonate after losing lock as they dont have IOG.

R27ER (the best radar missile currently) also has IOG and is much faster than 7F/M. So even if you lose lock, the missile will often kill you anyway. Around 8km is very likely to score the kill simply because its speed and even if you lose lock its still going for you.

So its not really unrealistic what OP says. If you climb you are easy prey to radar missiles. Phoenix and 7F/M's have trouble tracking enemies that are below them, but if you are climbing you are pretty much killing yourself.

Yes this is exactly what I mean, I can see the smoke trail from missiles players firing at me far away when I climb. This forces almost all other players to fly low and have the same play style.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por Til_Dovre_Faller:

This is stupid, but...


I have 2 times, crashed in purpose when a player has been trying to get me for an eterenty, and then gives up, and another one comes and try ans shoot me down when i am badly husrt and cant fly, then i have crashed to credit the hard worker the kill ahaha

LOL I definitely done that too but more then I can count.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por Sull:

Publicado originalmente por Til_Dovre_Faller:

This is stupid, but...


I have 2 times, crashed in purpose when a player has been trying to get me for an eterenty, and then gives up, and another one comes and try ans shoot me down when i am badly husrt and cant fly, then i have crashed to credit the hard worker the kill ahaha

That's pretty bro tbh, complete opposite of what OP is describing. Kudos

I was just saying in general but yeah I have crashed because I was petty or wanted to credit the kill to another person too. I just wanted to see if this type of behaviour is also present in the game.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por Ganymedes73:

Publicado originalmente por Sheir0:

I'm petty as ♥♥♥♥! If I see a missile I know I can't dodge or my flares just aren't working, I'd just crash so they don't get the kill. My favourite thing is when 3 or more enemy's are behind me, I would fly as far as I can and then crash at the edge of the map just to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Does anyone else do this?

Look at the game/map design and matchmaking. Then you add up new players skills, combat awareness and knowledge how to counter and attactk other planes. Sometimes their crew isnt fully spaded.

Then the fight starts, you see the same players with fully spaded 'better'models with gold crew over and over. The plane you fly is a 'lesser' model regarding speed, acceleration, turning, arnament. Your crew blacks out, no g-suit or silver crew, flares etc etc

Your enemy spots you, sees what your flying. He knows that he can take you on paper. Numbers game, they take you out. Easy kill, one enemy less to worrie about.

I've got thousands of hours in WT, but this why I dont fly jets anymore or play WT for that matter. I want to have a fighing chance and dont like a game mechanic or RNG decide if i'm grind meat or not. I like my bullits, canon rounds to do damage and not spark.

And yes I crashed my planes as a rookie, now I recognize the match. Hang out on the edge of the furball. If the enemy makes mistakes, might get a kill. If not I fly back to the AF and land. In group chat: 'GG, like me to J? or some of you need grounpound?

Flares: use mixed, flare at the right time, afterburner off, 'hide' your jet behind the flare so the incoming missile will go through the flares.

Two strats,
1. preventing a lock by flaring
2. decoy for the incoming missile

Yeah I get what you mean but I just wanted to see if there are any other petty people like me who would rather wait 5 min than to see an enemy get an easy kill.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por Suthirak_D42:

In ground RB, it's showing middle finger to your enemy because they will not get the score from me. I always use on enemy plane, they will waste the bomb and have to get back to the airfield while I can get new vehicle.

I thought they fixed that in Ground and if you leave the vehicle it credits the kill to either a person that has damaged you or the closes person too you? That's why I crash in Air so they don't get the kill.

[Hasheiro]

Publicado originalmente por RIFTMAKER:

i do the same but only if i am like the last 3 people.but understand your point. some may not like it. i dont trust the falre system anymore that much sice some changes. thrust off 1 chaff 2 flares and still nothing happens. so yeah. speeding and doing some funny stuff and wasting their time is the best i can do in the moment

Yup, I had many games where 2 or 3 players for some reason would target me and tunnel vision me and my teammates are no where to be found. This is when my pettiness comes out, I fly as far as I can and flare any missiles I can while I waste as much of their time. As soon as I see a missile can't dodge, I crash.