How to farm silver lion as a below average free to play player?

[Peepeepooper]

I play both air realistic and ground realistic battle. for me either its I go in and die immediately or I am alive but all my teammates are dead. I am not good at tanking. I am learning. In air battles I like bombers and strike aircraft, but i am unable to afford planes that are at the end of rank 3. Well, strike aircraft and bomber arent good at dog fighting because no maneuverability. I know they aren't suppose to dog fight but they are mostly helpless to fight back. I feel like im being punished by playing the "lesser" branches. Do you farm from air battle or tank battle?

[Shadowm8g4]

find a lineup you are good at and enjoy. play it more than other lineups. profit.

make sure to look at the multipliers at the bottom of each vehicles stats, and their repair costs. try to find a balance that works best for you, and you know you can do well with.

capturing points and trying to aim to get medals in games is the best way to accumalate points. the longer you stay in a vehicle without dying, the better your lions with be at the end of the game also.

getting tons of kills works obviously, but not every vehicle is set up to do that. try to play your tank/plane to its strengths and so on. if its light, scout as much as you can for example. everything adds up at the end.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Rank 3 is where you need to be above average just to avoid negative balance as F2P player, it is simply how the game economy is set up.

[Chaoslink]

Don’t play above Tier 3 if you’re not going to pay for premium. Everything above that is “paid” content where the economy shifts such that it isn’t viable to play for free without going down in tier just to fund it. You cannot play modern without paying. (You can, it just isn’t viable economically).

[Peepeepooper]

Ok chaoslink thats a good point. i will explore other braches thats below rank 3.

[YerKiddin]

Even if/when you find the perfect lineup, it will be subject to change, so get used to the idea of looking for that next lineup. Time of day and day of week can alter which lineup works best too.

[76561198315424152]

Just turn off auto repair.

[-reno-FR-]

Originally posted by Peepeepooper:

I play both air realistic and ground realistic battle. for me either its I go in and die immediately or I am alive but all my teammates are dead. I am not good at tanking. I am learning. In air battles I like bombers and strike aircraft, but i am unable to afford planes that are at the end of rank 3. Well, strike aircraft and bomber arent good at dog fighting because no maneuverability. I know they aren't suppose to dog fight but they are mostly helpless to fight back. I feel like im being punished by playing the "lesser" branches. Do you farm from air battle or tank battle?

Air Battles :

- If bombers, go for side climbing. Maybe in the meantime your teammates will attract all the ennemies in low altitude & you will have some bases to bomb.
Because usually all the other bombers will be noobs & fly straight into ennemy fighters & die before bombing.
And/or bases can also be bombed but respawning few time after if it is not a "destroy all bases before airfield" mission objective.

- If fighter, go for altitude & dont let you attracted by an isolated low altitude fighter / bomber. And when you decide to go for a target, chose one at +- same altitude if there are some.
Altitude is an advantage, dont risk it for nothing.

- against Zero fighters, never engage a "turning fight". You will loose it.

- Know your stuff : some fighters are very excellent in "turning fights" (Zeros) & others for "Boom & Zoom" (like Fw-190) which consist to go down to an ennemy, shot him & regain altitude fastly thanks to the energy you earned by diving to him.

- play & play & play & maximize with the time your crew skills.
There are no miracle : unless you pay real money to maximize crew skills, you will have to dedicate a lot of time & battles.


For Ground Battles :

- A bush, a tree, a hill, will often be the hidding spot of an ennemy.

- If you think that the spot X would be nice to ambush an ennemy, dont worry : it is, but also an ennemy will be yet here to ambush you.

- Practice a lot all the maps.
Play them by selecting your spawn point, for example map X, spawn a lot of battles at the same side. Learn why you died & how you can do it better next time.
When you have enough, try a lot of battles on same map but with another spawn point. Go for another side.
Maybe you will find for each map which side suits you the better.

- Never pass the Kill Cam when you die : it is highly benefit to watch it.
1st benefit is immediate : you can see where +- is the ennemy who fragged you, so you can take some revenge and / or bip on the map where the danger is, so your teammates will not fall into the same trap (if they are not stupid monkeys, but this is another issue).

2nd benefit is less immediate : it will permit you to analyze where the ennemies will usually take a seat.

Never ever forget that you must often ANALYZE why you died.
If you dont do it, just watch the word, you can cut it into 2 parts : anal / yze.
The 1st part is often where the battle will end if you dont do that analyze job.

- The fastest & direct way to an objective is usually the fastest & direct way to the Hangar.
Learn how to progress, how to flank ennemies.

- Never shot if you are not sure you will disable enough the ennemy.

- NEVER GO INTO BATTLE WITH FULL LOAD OF AMMUNITIONS : usually, 15-30 rounds are enough.
Going into battle with full loaded shells is just a more beautiful & sooner firework, and usually the "Jack in the box" effect for your tanks.

Here & there are some tips, only tips.

Avoid some decoration stuff too colored, it is not nice to be like a christmas tree.


But some last important points :

- Practice again & again & again.
It took me +- 200-500 hours to begin to really understand how stupid I was a lot of times.

I learn slowly, but I learn.

- Try to stick, for ground battles, to BR 5.3, no more.
It's like a turning point.
In higher tiers, you will have deadlier tanks which are able to kill at more distance.
And the Cost Repairs also dramatically increase.
So it is more punitive.
The problem is partially solved with 2 elements : the experience earned by the players, they know better the maps & how to deal with them, and the Premium Stuff and/or Premium Time.

In other words : higher than BR 5.3, it is certainly more for those who want to pay, to counter some negative & players unfriendly game mechanism choices from Gaijin.

For Air Battles, you should stick at max BR 7.7, the 1st jet generation, as in higher BRs you will have missile jets & the difficulty is here aswell : deadlier machines & repair costs....

[Peepeepooper]

Originally posted by -reno-FR-:

Originally posted by Peepeepooper:

I play both air realistic and ground realistic battle. for me either its I go in and die immediately or I am alive but all my teammates are dead. I am not good at tanking. I am learning. In air battles I like bombers and strike aircraft, but i am unable to afford planes that are at the end of rank 3. Well, strike aircraft and bomber arent good at dog fighting because no maneuverability. I know they aren't suppose to dog fight but they are mostly helpless to fight back. I feel like im being punished by playing the "lesser" branches. Do you farm from air battle or tank battle?

Air Battles :

- If bombers, go for side climbing. Maybe in the meantime your teammates will attract all the ennemies in low altitude & you will have some bases to bomb.
Because usually all the other bombers will be noobs & fly straight into ennemy fighters & die before bombing.
And/or bases can also be bombed but respawning few time after if it is not a "destroy all bases before airfield" mission objective.

- If fighter, go for altitude & dont let you attracted by an isolated low altitude fighter / bomber. And when you decide to go for a target, chose one at +- same altitude if there are some.
Altitude is an advantage, dont risk it for nothing.

- against Zero fighters, never engage a "turning fight". You will loose it.

- Know your stuff : some fighters are very excellent in "turning fights" (Zeros) & others for "Boom & Zoom" (like Fw-190) which consist to go down to an ennemy, shot him & regain altitude fastly thanks to the energy you earned by diving to him.

- play & play & play & maximize with the time your crew skills.
There are no miracle : unless you pay real money to maximize crew skills, you will have to dedicate a lot of time & battles.


For Ground Battles :

- A bush, a tree, a hill, will often be the hidding spot of an ennemy.

- If you think that the spot X would be nice to ambush an ennemy, dont worry : it is, but also an ennemy will be yet here to ambush you.

- Practice a lot all the maps.
Play them by selecting your spawn point, for example map X, spawn a lot of battles at the same side. Learn why you died & how you can do it better next time.
When you have enough, try a lot of battles on same map but with another spawn point. Go for another side.
Maybe you will find for each map which side suits you the better.

- Never pass the Kill Cam when you die : it is highly benefit to watch it.
1st benefit is immediate : you can see where +- is the ennemy who fragged you, so you can take some revenge and / or bip on the map where the danger is, so your teammates will not fall into the same trap (if they are not stupid monkeys, but this is another issue).

2nd benefit is less immediate : it will permit you to analyze where the ennemies will usually take a seat.

Never ever forget that you must often ANALYZE why you died.
If you dont do it, just watch the word, you can cut it into 2 parts : anal / yze.
The 1st part is often where the battle will end if you dont do that analyze job.

- The fastest & direct way to an objective is usually the fastest & direct way to the Hangar.
Learn how to progress, how to flank ennemies.

- Never shot if you are not sure you will disable enough the ennemy.

- NEVER GO INTO BATTLE WITH FULL LOAD OF AMMUNITIONS : usually, 15-30 rounds are enough.
Going into battle with full loaded shells is just a more beautiful & sooner firework, and usually the "Jack in the box" effect for your tanks.

Here & there are some tips, only tips.

Avoid some decoration stuff too colored, it is not nice to be like a christmas tree.


But some last important points :

- Practice again & again & again.
It took me +- 200-500 hours to begin to really understand how stupid I was a lot of times.

I learn slowly, but I learn.

- Try to stick, for ground battles, to BR 5.3, no more.
It's like a turning point.
In higher tiers, you will have deadlier tanks which are able to kill at more distance.
And the Cost Repairs also dramatically increase.
So it is more punitive.
The problem is partially solved with 2 elements : the experience earned by the players, they know better the maps & how to deal with them, and the Premium Stuff and/or Premium Time.

In other words : higher than BR 5.3, it is certainly more for those who want to pay, to counter some negative & players unfriendly game mechanism choices from Gaijin.

For Air Battles, you should stick at max BR 7.7, the 1st jet generation, as in higher BRs you will have missile jets & the difficulty is here aswell : deadlier machines & repair costs....

thanks for your advice. this is the first time that I find out the amount of ammo will affecting the probability i will blow up. Because i thought different amount of ammos i still pay the same amount of silver so I just bring the most ammos. I didnt know they will explode base on how many I have. I learned something interesting today.

[Peepeepooper]

Originally posted by redned:

>full lineup makes a big difference between a win and a lose. by full lineup I mean 2-3 tanks (light and mid or light, mid, heavy) 1 AA and a plane if you are confident using one.

>people will tell you turning off auto repairs is insignificant, but if you do it right it is a big difference. depending on repair costs or how many need repairs, you either repair or move to another nation/lineup.

>try be efficient with your crew slots, don't make my mistake. my best tank crew is the same as my best plane crew. try keep a crew slot for each type of vehicle if you can. it cost so much to crew vehicles, avoid moving them around.

Yes i did turn off auto repair. For some reason when i die immediately from a realistic ground battle with my m24, it turns red and i need to repair it for around 900 silver. But that doesnt happen when I play air battles. do you know why is that?

[Lunovus]

To avoid some of the repair costs:
- Turn off auto-repairs (remove checkmark from the little wrench in the lower right of the lineup)
- Cycle nations to give the crews some time to repair (some of) the damage for free

Make sure to spend some points into crew repair skill rank (should be as high as the rank of the vehicles needed to be repaird).
Also make sure the damaged vehicles are in an ACTIVE crew slot.

In higher ranks repairs may take days, but repairs are also done when you're not playing.

Not paying for (all of) the repairs may save you millions of SL.


Btw. in air arcade you can field more than one plane.
If all damaged planes are in an active crew slot, multiple damaged planes may be repaired at the same time.

[Sull]

Originally posted by Lunovus:

To avoid some of the repair costs:
- Turn off auto-repairs (remove checkmark from the little wrench in the lower right of the lineup)
- Cycle nations to give the crews some time to repair (some of) the damage for free

Make sure to spend some time into crew repair rank (should be as high as the rank of the vehicles needed to be repaird).
Also make sure the damaged vehicles are in an ACTIVE crew slot.

In higher ranks repairs may take days, but repairs are also done when you're not playing.

Not paying for (all of) the repairs may save you millions of SL.


Btw. in air arcade you can field more than one plane.
If all damaged planes are in an active crew slot, multiple damaged planes may be repaired at the same time.

Adding to this; each time you turn off the game make sure to fill your crew slots in all nations you play with broken vehicles where possible to take full advantage of free repairs

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

I would say play bombers, preferably either Germany or America. They have decent speed and size with good payloads to match. Their prices aren't generally too bad, but be careful as well. If it's more than 10k or so, probably not worth it.

I personally don't recommend the penny pinching that auto repair brings. You're just delaying the inevitable. If it is a lineup you really want to grind, you are going to be paying the cost manually anyway. If it's a country you play once and then drop for a few weeks, then maybe it is worth it, because repair times absolutely suck for crews.

For context, I have a Be-6 fully crewed to level 75 max, and I have it with an ace crew from grinding it that much. I went from 1 week repair to still 2 days. Do I take 2 day breaks from the Be6? Sure yeah. Would I actually turn off auto repair to pinch 11k? No. On average I make more than that in one game.

The same mentality can apply to normal tech tree vehicles, just pick the right vehicle for you with the right BR, right payload/defensive armament, and the right feel for you.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Long term, grind multiple nations into tier 3 to give multiple options into doing warbond tasks easily. Quite a few good earners appear in warbond shop. Also helps you understand what the enemy vehicles you face are capable of and helps you face them better.

Most of the vehicles in this range are also pretty cheap to play, crew locks wont matter.
And with many options to play youre bound to find a lineup that works well with how you play to earn.

[Til_Dovre_Faller]

Use the israeli M-51

[Pumpkin]

First you need reduce your SL spendings :) DONT play every new vehicle you unlock. focus on your first lineup . You sad you cant afford vehicles at rank 3 so you must playing in 3.0-6.0 B.R range IDK what nation you playing . Get yourself vehicles of same B.R and just play with them until you unclock new line up higher . Like my first line up was at 4.0 next at 6.7

I would recomended to use Planes in Ground battles . Many players use CAS whats gonna be slower , turn less than your fighter . Get extra kills for killing SPAA and light vehicles and best part of Ground battles :
People dont see you all the time like do in Air Battles ! My HE 162 is not great in Air Battles but is amazing when in Ground Battles

Just enjoy yourself ! if you focus on grind and new vehicles this game is not fun ;/