M1 KVT

[Illusionyary]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8204-development-pre-order-m1-kvt-en

This seems like a really weird addition for a nation that really doesn't need any premiums at that, also didn't we just have a patch one month ago?

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Serenity:

As in """pay 2 lose""" not literally but you are losing out on sideskirts which I had stop my BMP-2M APFSDS belt occassionally and probably have saved people from bad autocannon fire.

Those sideskirts also love to eat barrel launched atgms randomly.

[shipdesignerdude]

Unique vehicle is introduced as premium: People complain because of Paywall

TT vehicle gets introduced as premium with a funny skin: Copy paste!!!

Community can never make it's mind up.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by redned:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Those sideskirts also love to eat barrel launched atgms randomly.

but I was told by reddit that russian bias exists and those things only happen when trying to kill russian tanks

The fact that this guy uses Reddit scares me even more than it should.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by redned:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Those sideskirts also love to eat barrel launched atgms randomly.

but I was told by reddit that russian bias exists and those things only happen when trying to kill russian tanks

I believe its an issue with the game registering the air gap after hitting the sideskirts, it happens on every tank I've ever driven/fought with them. Russian MBT's don't have the same consistent side skirt set up though, as they are usually made up of addon armor, ERA/Slats so while weird things do happen with russian MBT's, there are more reasons for it. Lower BR russian vehicles don't get sideskirts too often like the T-34's and the KV's. In any case it is an issue that will mess with HEAT and even APHE rounds from time to time.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by redned:

Originally posted by French Cat:

The fact that this guy uses Reddit scares me even more than it should.

it's sarcasm. I am mocking how reddit thinks russian bias exists. I don't even have an account.

If you don't have an account then how do you know for sure then. Now this is a scary situation.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by redned:

Originally posted by French Cat:

If you don't have an account then how do you know for sure then. Now this is a scary situation.

you don't need an account

So you do use Reddit.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by French Cat:

Originally posted by redned:

it's sarcasm. I am mocking how reddit thinks russian bias exists. I don't even have an account.

If you don't have an account then how do you know for sure then. Now this is a scary situation.:melon:

You don't need an account, most of the stuff on reddit is public plus youtubers and other forum goers will provide screen shots and links from time to time which regard things the reddit community is discussing so even if you don't seek it out there, you can still find it elsewhere.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

Originally posted by French Cat:

If you don't have an account then how do you know for sure then. Now this is a scary situation.

You don't need an account, most of the stuff on reddit is public plus youtubers and other forum goers will provide screen shots and links from time to time which regard things the reddit community is discussing so even if you don't seek it out there, you can still find it elsewhere.

I was just messing with him.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

I believe its an issue with the game registering the air gap after hitting the sideskirts, it happens on every tank I've ever driven/fought with them.

Might be in this case, but the game is generally kind of inconsistent with atgms sometimes, I've noticed this with tandem atgms and especially with the 9M117M1 / 9M119M1 more actually.

Other example is the 9M133, frontal hit on Leopards UFP likes to go straight through sometimes, ignoring everything and then taking out the radiators in the back of all things.

Best explanation I've come up with is that the game does some weird overmatch thing it isn't supposed to.

Weirdly enough, the TOW2A doesn't seem to do this, even though it does have more pen than the barrel launched ones.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by redned:

Originally posted by French Cat:

I was just messing with him.

I figured but unless I explain myself someone that has a different opinion to me will read what you said and decide I am a redditor

Just a silly prank bro calm down.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

I believe its an issue with the game registering the air gap after hitting the sideskirts, it happens on every tank I've ever driven/fought with them.

Might be in this case, but the game is generally kind of inconsistent with atgms sometimes, I've noticed this with tandem atgms and especially with the 9M117M1 / 9M119M1 more actually.

Other example is the 9M133, frontal hit on Leopards UFP likes to go straight through sometimes, ignoring everything and then taking out the radiators in the back of all things.

Best explanation I've come up with is that the game does some weird overmatch thing it isn't supposed to.

Weirdly enough, the TOW2A doesn't seem to do this, even though it does have more pen than the barrel launched ones.

I haven't noticed a difference with any of the TOW's but I use them on heli's rather than IFV's most of the time so that might have something to do with it. 9M133 is the barrel launched on for the T-64-T-80U right? the one with 650mm of pen? If it is or even if its not I have had similar issues with the T-64-T-80U ATGM though for some reason it likes to red the breach or kill the loader on the way by even if there is no spalling heading for those locations in the x-ray.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by redned:

ok going off topic let me fix that. M1 KVT, is pretend tank for people to play pretend with.

Well you are playing a game about pretending to control vehicles and to destroy other vehicles unless you actually fight in a war. I think I would rather pretend than fight in a war. Don't know about you though.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by redned:

ok going off topic let me fix that. M1 KVT, is pretend tank for people to play pretend with.

M1KVT will be a tank for people to suffer in and then complain to gaijin about it for months because they chose to add something nobody asked for and did so, as it appears right now, incorrectly. Can't get into trouble in halves can they?

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by French Cat:

Originally posted by redned:

ok going off topic let me fix that. M1 KVT, is pretend tank for people to play pretend with.

Well you are playing a game about pretending to control vehicles and to destroy other vehicles unless you actually fight in a war. I think I would rather pretend than fight in a war. Don't know about you though.:f117:

Depends on whether or not its a Nerf war.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

Originally posted by French Cat:

Well you are playing a game about pretending to control vehicles and to destroy other vehicles unless you actually fight in a war. I think I would rather pretend than fight in a war. Don't know about you though.

Depends on whether or not its a Nerf war.

Yea that's a grey area for sure.