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How is BMP2M same BR as the Bradley???
The M3A3 Bradley is probably on the list of one of the worst vehicles of that type I have played.
Slow firerate and worse ammo, horrible and I mean HORRIBLE missiles that either get completely eaten by biased Russian era or fly like a wet towel, the launcher needs 5 seconds to deploy while the BMP can shot while driving. Unless I camp for 10 minutes I simply cant deploy the launcher quick enough to shot at least once.
Both have weak armor, but while the BMP can somehow deflect frontal shots (with a 12mm thick plate?????) the Bradley just gets oneshot while u shot the tracks off.
I cant believe that the BMP2M was once at 8.7. Even at 10.0 it is way, WAY too strong and should be moved to 11.3.

I am honestly getting sick of this biased game especially the hate against US tanks that simply cant compete at all in top tier or everything above 8.0.
No mater what BR if its the completely broken KV1s and T34 or the T55/62 or top tier with their Ka50s, Pantsir that shots you the second you spawn into the game or T80 that simply ignores direct hits to their ammo.
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Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
The M3A3 Bradley is probably on the list of one of the worst vehicles of that type I have played.
Slow firerate and worse ammo, horrible and I mean HORRIBLE missiles that either get completely eaten by biased Russian era or fly like a wet towel, the launcher needs 5 seconds to deploy while the BMP can shot while driving. Unless I camp for 10 minutes I simply cant deploy the launcher quick enough to shot at least once.
Both have weak armor, but while the BMP can somehow deflect frontal shots (with a 12mm thick plate?????) the Bradley just gets oneshot while u shot the tracks off.
I cant believe that the BMP2M was once at 8.7. Even at 10.0 it is way, WAY too strong and should be moved to 11.3.

I am honestly getting sick of this biased game especially the hate against US tanks that simply cant compete at all in top tier or everything above 8.0.
No mater what BR if its the completely broken KV1s and T34 or the T55/62 or top tier with their Ka50s, Pantsir that shots you the second you spawn into the game or T80 that simply ignores direct hits to their ammo.

You are forgetting one important thing, its only a bmp2 with kornets its a bmp2 after all, unlike the puma or other modern tanks this is a very cheap vehicle, its high enough the upper brs are reserved for the new russian IFVs.
+rep Vollidiot Sep 7, 2023 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by I Kawaii_Sheep I:
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
The M3A3 Bradley is probably on the list of one of the worst vehicles of that type I have played.
Slow firerate and worse ammo, horrible and I mean HORRIBLE missiles that either get completely eaten by biased Russian era or fly like a wet towel, the launcher needs 5 seconds to deploy while the BMP can shot while driving. Unless I camp for 10 minutes I simply cant deploy the launcher quick enough to shot at least once.
Both have weak armor, but while the BMP can somehow deflect frontal shots (with a 12mm thick plate?????) the Bradley just gets oneshot while u shot the tracks off.
I cant believe that the BMP2M was once at 8.7. Even at 10.0 it is way, WAY too strong and should be moved to 11.3.

I am honestly getting sick of this biased game especially the hate against US tanks that simply cant compete at all in top tier or everything above 8.0.
No mater what BR if its the completely broken KV1s and T34 or the T55/62 or top tier with their Ka50s, Pantsir that shots you the second you spawn into the game or T80 that simply ignores direct hits to their ammo.

You are forgetting one important thing, its only a bmp2 with kornets its a bmp2 after all, unlike the puma or other modern tanks this is a very cheap vehicle, its high enough the upper brs are reserved for the new russian IFVs.
ahahahaha xD
dude you know there enough videos where youre precious bmp2m cant hit ♥♥♥♥ at 300 meters range Also which new russian ifv ? the premium 2s38 ?
bradley puma and all the others are ♥♥♥♥ compared to russian "what if ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"
A Horrible Horse Sep 7, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
The hilarious part is that in real battles the Bradley mops the BMP yet for some reason this Gaijin doesn't seem to want that
Mizzar Sep 7, 2023 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
The M3A3 Bradley is probably on the list of one of the worst vehicles of that type I have played.
Slow firerate and worse ammo, horrible and I mean HORRIBLE missiles that either get completely eaten by biased Russian era or fly like a wet towel, the launcher needs 5 seconds to deploy while the BMP can shot while driving. Unless I camp for 10 minutes I simply cant deploy the launcher quick enough to shot at least once.
Both have weak armor, but while the BMP can somehow deflect frontal shots (with a 12mm thick plate?????) the Bradley just gets oneshot while u shot the tracks off.
I cant believe that the BMP2M was once at 8.7. Even at 10.0 it is way, WAY too strong and should be moved to 11.3.

I am honestly getting sick of this biased game especially the hate against US tanks that simply cant compete at all in top tier or everything above 8.0.
No mater what BR if its the completely broken KV1s and T34 or the T55/62 or top tier with their Ka50s, Pantsir that shots you the second you spawn into the game or T80 that simply ignores direct hits to their ammo.
u are not the only one with that problem mate, PUMA is 10.0 with no Missiles and its APFDS pen less than 200mm meanwhile Russian 2S38 is 10.0 with APFDS with +200mm pen

PUMA (10.0 BR) APFSDS : 121mm pen
2S38 (10.0 BR) 3UBM22 APFSDS: 225mm pen

Average russian bias balance
Last edited by Mizzar; Sep 7, 2023 @ 6:41pm
shipdesignerdude Sep 7, 2023 @ 6:44pm 
Doesn't the BMP-2's gun have horrible accuracy irl and on the Ka-50 in-game? I'd like to see that modeled correctly.
French Cat Sep 7, 2023 @ 7:13pm 
Yea the poor Bradley is just so sad, even the TOW-2bs aren’t even that good anymore.
Originally posted by +rep Vollidiot:
Originally posted by I Kawaii_Sheep I:

You are forgetting one important thing, its only a bmp2 with kornets its a bmp2 after all, unlike the puma or other modern tanks this is a very cheap vehicle, its high enough the upper brs are reserved for the new russian IFVs.
ahahahaha xD
dude you know there enough videos where youre precious bmp2m cant hit ♥♥♥♥ at 300 meters range Also which new russian ifv ? the premium 2s38 ?
bradley puma and all the others are ♥♥♥♥ compared to russian "what if ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

The russian IFVs which are comparable with the Puma or KF-41 for example Kurganez-25 & T-15 Armata.
Originally posted by Mizzar:
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
The M3A3 Bradley is probably on the list of one of the worst vehicles of that type I have played.
Slow firerate and worse ammo, horrible and I mean HORRIBLE missiles that either get completely eaten by biased Russian era or fly like a wet towel, the launcher needs 5 seconds to deploy while the BMP can shot while driving. Unless I camp for 10 minutes I simply cant deploy the launcher quick enough to shot at least once.
Both have weak armor, but while the BMP can somehow deflect frontal shots (with a 12mm thick plate?????) the Bradley just gets oneshot while u shot the tracks off.
I cant believe that the BMP2M was once at 8.7. Even at 10.0 it is way, WAY too strong and should be moved to 11.3.

I am honestly getting sick of this biased game especially the hate against US tanks that simply cant compete at all in top tier or everything above 8.0.
No mater what BR if its the completely broken KV1s and T34 or the T55/62 or top tier with their Ka50s, Pantsir that shots you the second you spawn into the game or T80 that simply ignores direct hits to their ammo.
u are not the only one with that problem mate, PUMA is 10.0 with no Missiles and its APFDS pen less than 200mm meanwhile Russian 2S38 is 10.0 with APFDS with +200mm pen

PUMA (10.0 BR) APFSDS : 121mm pen
2S38 (10.0 BR) 3UBM22 APFSDS: 225mm pen

Average russian bias balance

Puma is 30mm Derivatsiya is 57mm, there is no bias even without the 9m133 i would totally take the kurganez.
Last edited by <I^_^]I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I[^_^]>; Sep 7, 2023 @ 7:52pm
Col. Cornbread Sep 7, 2023 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:
Doesn't the BMP-2's gun have horrible accuracy irl and on the Ka-50 in-game? I'd like to see that modeled correctly.

The barrel wobbles like crazy when they fire, You can find the picture of the Egyptian KA-52 which shot itself because of how bad it bends.

It can be mitigated as several countries who still use it have a housing built around the barrel to prevent from wobbling as much.
Last edited by Col. Cornbread; Sep 7, 2023 @ 8:32pm
Kiwoeoe Sep 7, 2023 @ 8:31pm 
skill issue AF mate XD
French Cat Sep 7, 2023 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Kiwoo:
skill issue AF mate XD
WHO ARE YOU SAYING THAT TO???
Kiwoeoe Sep 7, 2023 @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by French Cat:
Originally posted by Kiwoo:
skill issue AF mate XD
WHO ARE YOU SAYING THAT TO???
To OP
Patriot03 Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:05pm 
Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:
Doesn't the BMP-2's gun have horrible accuracy irl and on the Ka-50 in-game? I'd like to see that modeled correctly.

Now your bias is showing..
Originally posted by Mizzar:
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
The M3A3 Bradley is probably on the list of one of the worst vehicles of that type I have played.
Slow firerate and worse ammo, horrible and I mean HORRIBLE missiles that either get completely eaten by biased Russian era or fly like a wet towel, the launcher needs 5 seconds to deploy while the BMP can shot while driving. Unless I camp for 10 minutes I simply cant deploy the launcher quick enough to shot at least once.
Both have weak armor, but while the BMP can somehow deflect frontal shots (with a 12mm thick plate?????) the Bradley just gets oneshot while u shot the tracks off.
I cant believe that the BMP2M was once at 8.7. Even at 10.0 it is way, WAY too strong and should be moved to 11.3.

I am honestly getting sick of this biased game especially the hate against US tanks that simply cant compete at all in top tier or everything above 8.0.
No mater what BR if its the completely broken KV1s and T34 or the T55/62 or top tier with their Ka50s, Pantsir that shots you the second you spawn into the game or T80 that simply ignores direct hits to their ammo.
u are not the only one with that problem mate, PUMA is 10.0 with no Missiles and its APFDS pen less than 200mm meanwhile Russian 2S38 is 10.0 with APFDS with +200mm pen

PUMA (10.0 BR) APFSDS : 121mm pen
2S38 (10.0 BR) 3UBM22 APFSDS: 225mm pen

Average russian bias balance
Take account mobility and armor dumbass
Bucher Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:31pm 
if you think america has it bad try a minor nation. The dardo is the same BR as both those while not being able to fire ATGMs on the move and having gen 1 sights. Honestly if TOW-2B where returned to their old pen values instead of being eaten by the random MGs and ♥♥♥♥ slapped to the roof of everything in this game those IFVs would probably be alot more viable.
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Date Posted: Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:41pm
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