Tiger II cant penetrate anything

[EmotionallyBroken]

just played tank assault, highest tank is tiger 2 with HEAT rounds
I got maybe 5 kills all map, JS3 and other br 8 tanks are basically invincible to the tiger II, even with full weapon upgrades . tiger gets constantly one shotted, sometimes at 1000 yards ... in the front turret... the strongest armor point it has.

Nothing about this is balanced, at least add a 105 KwK to give it SOME kind of potency.
Then it still gets one shotted in the strongest armor point, but can hopefully penetrate something more than 3% of the time :P

EDIT: ok I realized theres one more upgrade, lol, but still.....

[FD_Stalker]

You are too late for the game, the wunderwaffe packs, Tiger II 105, Panther 2, Coelian and Maus are gone. 6.7 German without 105 Tiger II is purely rely on 2 TDs and german m41 sicne long 88 is outdated for cold war HTs battle. Long 88 lack of punching power and over pressure ability (especially in CQC against ivan armor gaps) is really not a threat against enemy which will affect your own combat eff and enemy confidence against you. Stop using 88 tiger ii on uptier match and learn jpz 45 FLAT LAND DOG FIGHT and 2km OHK

Participate in battle pass and hopefully get your hands on bush each battle pass if possible and bush the fk out of your tank

[CaptainSpacetime]

the 105 kinda sucks though? it's got a super long reload and barely any more pen.

panther II is the same gun as the tiger II

[Aegis270]

The turret front is the weakest armor, not the strongest. It might be the thickest, but it's at a flat angle. Many contemporary guns can punch through if you give them a flat shot, while the entire hull can resist all but the strongest AP/APHE rounds it can see. Which is why the Tiger IIs are both best off at long range and when wiggling the turret between shots. The giant conical mantlet will eat just about any round fired at it, and the turret sides are an autobounce at mild angles. So long as you deny the enemy the ability to accurately aim for your flat turret front, you'll be quite a hard target.

Meanwhile, the long 88 remains one of the best all round tank guns for the BR. It doesn't excel in any single catagory, but it also doesn't have the massive drawbacks that other guns have, like the reload on the T34/IS series, or the poor pen on the T26E5. With good aim, you can engage most tanks you'll see pretty comfortably. Some tanks are borderline immune frontally (T26E5, IS-3/4), but you always have the option to barrel them and disengage.

The TIger IIs are much stronger against enemy mediums than heavies generally.

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

the 105 kinda sucks though? it's got a super long reload and barely any more pen.

panther II is the same gun as the tiger II

It has amazing overpressure ability(better than 128, ironically) due to the high exposive fill (work very well against any armor gaps, including the IS3 & IS6 front hull gap between upper and lower armor plate). With long 88 you would only kill or wounded driver, but with 105 you kill their whole crews. I trashed many is3 with this trick already. They think their armor is invincible at front, all you need to do is hit his gun barrel or bait him to think he is baiting your shot and hit his armor gap with precise aim, let tnt do the rest.

The major difference between 88 and 105 is the confidence boost and combat eff improve. You know you 105 punch hard and it kills when penetrate, and kills without penetrating, magically. And your opponent knows it too. With 105 you will actively hunting is3 and seeking 1v1 against is6, bully any MT, and hopefully did not hit merica HT window frame (infinity armor, shell blackhole)

[spekt3r]

Originally posted by EmotionallyBroken:

highest tank is tiger 2 with HEAT rounds

why are u using the heat rounds anyway?
like 110/95/55mm pen.
use the PzGr39/43.

[Boii Fan]

Originally posted by spekt3r:

Originally posted by EmotionallyBroken:

highest tank is tiger 2 with HEAT rounds

why are u using the heat rounds anyway?
like 110/95/55mm pen.
use the PzGr39/43.

He thinks the Tiger II is weak and needs to be artificially boosted. He got other issues to work on

[CaptainSpacetime]

Originally posted by FD_Stalker:

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

the 105 kinda sucks though? it's got a super long reload and barely any more pen.

panther II is the same gun as the tiger II

It has amazing overpressure ability(better than 128, ironically) due to the high exposive fill (work very well against any armor gaps, including the IS3 & IS6 front hull gap between upper and lower armor plate). With long 88 you would only kill or wounded driver, but with 105 you kill their whole crews. I trashed many is3 with this trick already. They think their armor is invincible at front, all you need to do is hit his gun barrel or bait him to think he is baiting your shot and hit his armor gap with precise aim, let tnt do the rest.

The major difference between 88 and 105 is the confidence boost and combat eff improve. You know you 105 punch hard and it kills when penetrate, and kills without penetrating, magically. And your opponent knows it too. With 105 you will actively hunting is3 and seeking 1v1 against is6, bully any MT, and hopefully did not hit merica HT window frame (infinity armor, shell blackhole)

I'll try bringing it out more in uptiers those IS-3 are a pain for sure.. just that 20 second reload ughh

[FireFromBehind]

Mate seriously complaining about nonpenning while using the worst shell Tiger 2 has LMAO

[flat_Lander1]

massive skill issue

[๖ۣۜSIcario]

uptier in this game is kinda BS

[Darkdan777]

Originally posted by EmotionallyBroken:

just played tank assault, highest tank is tiger 2 with HEAT rounds
I got maybe 5 kills all map, JS3 and other br 8 tanks are basically invincible to the tiger II, even with full weapon upgrades . riger gets constantly one shotted, sometimes at 1000 yards ... in the front turret... the strongest armor point it has.

Nothing about this is balanced, at least add a 105 KwK to give it SOME kind of potency.
Then it still gets one shotted in the strongest armor point, but can hopefully penetrate something more than 3% of the time :P

EDIT: ok I realized theres one more upgrade, lol, but still.....

Why are you taking the tiger 2 into 8.0br games? Ever seen that one meme where a cyclist puts a stick in his front wheel and blames something else. . . . . That's you right now

Tiger 2 is ok at 6.7 good at 5.7 bad at 7.7, also why are you using HEAT? APHE is all you should be using

[flat_Lander1]

Originally posted by Venom Thanos:

Originally posted by Darkdan777:

Why are you taking the tiger 2 into 8.0br games? Ever seen that one meme where a cyclist puts a stick in his front wheel and blames something else. . . . . That's you right now

Tiger 2 is ok at 6.7 good at 5.7 bad at 7.7, also why are you using HEAT? APHE is all you should be using

He mentioned tank assault so it's 6.7 to 8.0 bro. And Kursk being one of the map that face Russian tanks such as Object 906, T-44-100, especially the T-54 and IS-3 that Tiger 2 indeed has some problem killing frontally, and this map you left with very little option to flank except dealing them their front armour. Tiger 2 is actually one of the best tank to use it assault mode due to the 7.5 seconds reload speed and carry over 70 total ammo, is normal to have 50 kills with 0 death in maps like Ardennes or Marginot line where flanking is available.

i have 0 problems playing against t54\t55 using BR-471B, yes its annoying playing againts them with such a low pen round but its manageable

[Desert Fox]

probely from the continued nerfing of German Armour

[Aleuvian]

So, you've fallen for a common mistake beginner players make.
Just because a shell is further down the modification research tree DOES NOT mean it is better.

In the case of the Tiger II, and most other German tanks, your starting shell is often your best shell for general use. The HEAT shell is pretty much unusable. HE is great for lightly skinned/open top vehicles that you might otherwise over penetrate.

[mrunuick]

I would like to point out the OP also believes the front of the turret is the strongest point on the tiger II. It is in fact the second weakest on the front for both of variants as long as the enemy doesn't hit the mantlet, which is easy because of how small the mantlets are.