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Ant1Dots Sep 4, 2023 @ 1:04pm
M163 Worst AA in game.
I have 1.4Klm range (max max max), I'm Slow, I dont have any radar, My Auto lock dont give Balistic info, And i am ....... 7.7 BR ! Let's Go :D

Gaijin just can you explain this ? How i am supposed to shot an helicopter with TV 3.5Klm ? How i am supposed hit a plane at 700Klm/h if he can easly bomb me from 2klm ?

Dev please just explain this BR choice. i wait.
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JuX Sep 4, 2023 @ 1:27pm 
It used to be good.

With radar you were able to acquire lock long range and cut down any plane that got within 3km range of you. But then got nerfed to oblivion. Last time i played it, the lead indicator was inaccurate like everyone els and only locks when enemy is already in effective range. So by the time you lock it's already too late.

So all it really is now is a 20mm minigun on a tractor. Basically slight upgrade over BTR-ZD thats 5.3.
shipdesignerdude Sep 4, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
The US could use a new 8.0-8.3 SPAA. It's easily the worst radar equipped anti-air in the game.

A good option would be the XM246, the sole competitor to the M247. The M247 is only as high as it is because of the Proxy rounds + the radar. The XM246 uses the Oerlikon KDA, the Gepard's guns. I don't know if the XM246 was tested with the proxy rounds for the 35mm, but Gajin could always nerf it and not give it the proxy rounds.
Makolic Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:
The US could use a new 8.0-8.3 SPAA. It's easily the worst radar equipped anti-air in the game.

A good option would be the XM246, the sole competitor to the M247. The M247 is only as high as it is because of the Proxy rounds + the radar. The XM246 uses the Oerlikon KDA, the Gepard's guns. I don't know if the XM246 was tested with the proxy rounds for the 35mm, but Gajin could always nerf it and not give it the proxy rounds.

Despite what people say the m247 is an 8.3 as it can't compete against mach aircrafts that has high manuvarability and can kill from 4km out while flying on the trees.
Chief Beef Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:49pm 
Agreed they either need to buff it or add an 8.0 AA to the U.S. tech tree
shipdesignerdude Sep 4, 2023 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by Makolic:
Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:
The US could use a new 8.0-8.3 SPAA. It's easily the worst radar equipped anti-air in the game.

A good option would be the XM246, the sole competitor to the M247. The M247 is only as high as it is because of the Proxy rounds + the radar. The XM246 uses the Oerlikon KDA, the Gepard's guns. I don't know if the XM246 was tested with the proxy rounds for the 35mm, but Gajin could always nerf it and not give it the proxy rounds.

Despite what people say the m247 is an 8.3 as it can't compete against mach aircrafts that has high manuvarability and can kill from 4km out while flying on the trees.
It has proximity-fuze rounds and a pretty decent targeting radar..... definitely not on par with the Za-35, which is just a quicker Gepard.
chimera Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:44pm 
Makes a cool noise though.
EN Sep 4, 2023 @ 8:30pm 
Consider taking a fighter to be AA, its US lol you'll actually be able to delet those missile helos before they can do much
Blyatman Sep 4, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Ant1Dots:
I have 1.4Klm range (max max max), I'm Slow, I dont have any radar, My Auto lock dont give Balistic info, And i am ....... 7.7 BR ! Let's Go :D

Gaijin just can you explain this ? How i am supposed to shot an helicopter with TV 3.5Klm ? How i am supposed hit a plane at 700Klm/h if he can easly bomb me from 2klm ?

Dev please just explain this BR choice. i wait.
you do have radar though, thats what your lock system is...
French Cat Sep 4, 2023 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Venom Thanos:
Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:
It has proximity-fuze rounds and a pretty decent targeting radar..... definitely not on par with the Za-35, which is just a quicker Gepard.
The bullets of M247 alsp doesn't have tracers, can't dodge what you can't see
Well you can dodge what you hear. Kinda like the Flash
Originally posted by French Cat:
Originally posted by Venom Thanos:
The bullets of M247 alsp doesn't have tracers, can't dodge what you can't see
Well you can dodge what you hear. Kinda like the Flash


This, and your shots move SO slow compared to a gepard or ZA-35 shot, you literally can keep making odd movements here and there and not get hit at all.
Last edited by FleetCommander USMC; Sep 5, 2023 @ 12:32am
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Date Posted: Sep 4, 2023 @ 1:04pm
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