Britain vs Germany for bombers?

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

I am very new to the game. I am playing as Britain in hopes to eventually get the Lancaster bomber. Is this a good bomber?

Which nation has good bombers? I heard Germany has the best with either US or USSR taking 2nd place.

[xCrossFaith]

Germany is uncontested for WWII era, truth be told tho, any of the 3 main nations (US, Germany and USSR) are super powerful

[mogami_99]

Britain has an award for bombs on target. You want to take the daily/special task destroy enemy bases. Starting at BR 1.0 fly bombers and attack bases. Every hit counts toward the award and you grind bombers that way.
You do not train bomber crews you train the slot you place them in so as you get newer bombers place them in that slot. Fly RB.
You qualify crews. The basic level is the price to put them into the slot. Then when the crew level (the slot) is high enough to you can upgrade them to expert for SL (and Ace for GE but I wouldn't worry about that yet)
Because enemy fighters will be after you the trick is to beat them to the target by diving rather then climbing. (The most important thing is to drop your bombs) Cut your engine speed and dive till your wings begin to flap. (then pull up and when speed reduced increase throttle.
To bomb in RB use F7. This brings up your bomb sight. There are 2 cross hairs. 1 stays in center this is your position over the ground. The second floats around. This is where your bombs will hit. Place the floating one over the target and hit space bar to bomb (use B to open your Bomb bay doors)
After you bomb turn and head for home to rearm and fly again. Use F6 to man your guns when attacked.
Remember to call out your target for the other bombers (M for map place curser over target and hit enter) Don't bomb targets teammate have called out unless they do not destroy it or are shot down
Good luck

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

@mogami_99
@xCrossFaith

Thanks, I know how to use bombers and such. I am just asking on which nation I should pursue bombers as. Right now I am Britian, but I have heard bad things about britis.

[Pec]

For uk you generally trade a significant amount of point defence for a large bomb load so if you make it past the fighters you can do a lot of damage but odds are you cant defend yourself towards the higher brs

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by GB:

For uk you generally trade a significant amount of point defence for a large bomb load so if you make it past the fighters you can do a lot of damage but odds are you cant defend yourself towards the higher brs

So am I better off as Germany or USA? I would love the Brit Lancaster, but I do not want nor have the time to grind. I just play for fun.

[Pec]

Thats for you to decide in truth i only have uk air + a small amount of ussr so i cant realy make that call but generally bombers are going to suck towards the higher brs.
If you want some action dont pick uk as only the early bombers can defend them self. If you want to sit back and relax uk is a decent since you can do a lot of damage though you will spend most of your time hiding around the flanks of the map to get past people

[Guts]

us has catalina or something, which is a strange hydroplane that can carry up to 4 tons of bomb. that thing is a beast as it is different than your usual bombers and can suck up all the ammo fired at it like sponge and keep flying, every other bomber (apart from some premiums and hydroplanes) are ♥♥♥♥.

[Guts]

if you have money to spare go buy german premium hydroplane bomber, unless they attack you from the front, enemy fighters won't be able to do much

[Sobolewski]

Don't bother playing bombers in any mode other than Simulator Battles. There, the Lancaster is a very good bomber thanks to its absurd bombload, especially the 12 000 lb bomb that has over 6 tons worth of TNT equivalent, capable of substantially damaging an airfield's modules and destroying ground targets like tanks and SPAA on a wide radius.

Outside of Simulator battles, where one is capable of going fairly undetected and fighters cannot use mouse aim to accurately point guns on target while bomber gunners have artificially bad accuracy, bombers are basically pain and suffering to play with few exceptions, most of them being german or soviet premiums like the BV-238, Be-6 or Ju-288.

Once you're around or past 3.0 BR you will find it increasingly more difficult to get bombs on target as fighter planes get disproportionately faster, better-climbing and better armed compared to your bombers, and become increasingly capable of climbing to 5000m altitude and killing your bombers in one pass before you can make it to the first bombing target.

War Thunder players have this extremely bottom-feeding, zero-sum mentality of going after harmless targets like bombers and ground strike aircraft that can't win the game first because they're easy kills, forgetting that in the current game economy where going 1 kill to 1 death is almost always a net loss in SL, things that can generate SL whitout making someone else lose it like these bombers and ground strike aircraft are what keeps the economy from completely breaking and they SHOULD be allowed to farm some score before getting killed because:

- they can't actually win a game in 99% of scenarios, with small exceptions like a squad of 4 B-29s, Tu-4s, or BV 238s which are actually capable of leveling 4 bases and an airfield in one pass, ending the game by rapid ticket bleed. Your average 4-bomber team (as many dedicated bombers as the game allows to be in one match of Air RB) cannot level everything in one pass and has too poor a climbrate and speed to make it to a second bombing run in 99% of matches.

- being able to farm SL in a PvE aircraft whitout being immediately shot down will incentivize more players to play them, meaning there will be more easy, risk-free kills to reap for the fighter players after they win the air supremacy battle.

- being able to use ground strike aircraft in Air RB whitout getting kicked in the balls on repeat will hopefully keep players who like them out of Ground RB, where CAS is rightfully shunned for how little counterplay exists to it from a tanker's standpoint.

[parser]

Tu4 has the best bomber turret protection, but it has too high a combat rating like an American super fortress. If you need efficiency you should only use swedish bombers at rank 3-4. They are the fastest, which means they live longer than the rest. There is also a Japanese bomber at rank 4 and a Chinese clone of it at rank 3. Other bombers are slow, most have incapacitated and useless defensive turrets. Look at the design of the Tu-4 turret, which the Be-6 has, the German premium bomber, the Stirling, but there is 7mm. and on the American B-25. If you do not need speed and survivability, then play bombers only with such a turret.

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Uh okay, thank you. I guess I'll stick with British bombers or American.
Can someone tell me which bomber has good gunners? Most of the time I feel like my gunner is too busy sleeping on his gun rather than actually doing his job. And I cannot drop bombs and gun at the same time.

[parser]

Originally posted by apple:

Uh okay, thank you. I guess I'll stick with British bombers or American.
Can someone tell me which bomber has good gunners? Most of the time I feel like my gunner is too busy sleeping on his gun rather than actually doing his job. And I cannot drop bombs and gun at the same time.

I gave you an answer. Britain has weak bombers, as if with an engine from rank 1. With the UK you will have low stats. Americans are the most balanced nation in all technology. But the faster the plane the better.

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by Gondwanec:

Originally posted by apple:

Uh okay, thank you. I guess I'll stick with British bombers or American.
Can someone tell me which bomber has good gunners? Most of the time I feel like my gunner is too busy sleeping on his gun rather than actually doing his job. And I cannot drop bombs and gun at the same time.

I gave you an answer. Britain has weak bombers, as if with an engine from rank 1. With the UK you will have low stats. Americans are the most balanced nation in all technology. But the faster the plane the better.

Okay thanks, sorry I kinda lost hope in this discussion. Good answers, though.
I'll go with American bombers then, or Russian. Most likely American.
So do any other bombers actually have a use? The gunner ai seems like crap.

[parser]

I'll give you an even simpler answer. Look at the turret JU87 D AND G SEREIS and play only on the same

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by Gondwanec:

I'll give you an even simpler answer. Look at the turret JU87 D AND G SEREIS and play only on the same

Dislike the plane, but thanks. I'll try American bombers, or if I feel like it continue with British.