What even *is* solid shot?

[scorpanok]

I'm currently slogging through the British ground tree and every one of their tanks, from 1.0 to 3.3, only has some form of solid shot, weather that be AP or APBC. These rounds just don't do anything to anyone I pen for some reason. I've seen it countless times were I've shot a T-50, for example, directly hit some crew with the main shell just for them to turn orange... What? you telling me that Kevenchi in there just survived a 45 pound mass of steel flying through his tank at him?

That's when you do manage to penetrate, most of the time you just see "Shell Shattered" or "Non-penetration" over and over again when firing at anything not perfectly 90 degs.

P.S - Why does the British tech tree have their tanks use the exact same 45 pound cannon from the beginning all the way up to 3.3? You have to use the exact same shells as well meaning that you have the same pen now as you did 2 whole BRs ago. Lets not talk about needing to research the exact same shell five times.

[๖ۣۜSIcario]

then try RU bias after you done british

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

I mean its basically all what Britain used. It's supposed to spall and use the shrapnel it creates to kill the crew in warthunder. It inherently does less internal damage than other shells that are specifically designed to detonate inside a tank. It was effective in real life, because if you were in a tank and you saw a giant hole appear next to you, it was probably enough for you to start waving the white flag.

With warthunder though, Britain gets rounds that penetrate more than their counterparts often, with the cost of reduced post-penetration damage. If you're playing britian, you really gotta know where to aim to deal maximum damage.

[karabaş 🐕‍🦺]

that 40 pounder can hold its own until that BR + brits dont have that much of a choice like major nations in terms of vehicle classes

in case you didnt notice 40 pounder has APHE round its enough to take out anything at its BR and has average explosive filler and they shoot somewhat fast

but on the other hand that solid shot becomes much of a problem around 4-6 BR with guns getting bigger reloads getting slower

[Flavalicious]

Solid shot is basically a metal slug. If you play the british ground tree you need to be a surgeon with your shots. Basically need to know where the gunner or ammo is on every vehicle your likely to fight at that BR, and then when you cross 7.7 and commanders start being able to fire guns when the gunner is dead, you need to know how to kill them as well.

There is supposed to be more shrapnel from solid shot, but gaijin doesnt make much cash off the UK tree so our ammo is often busted/under performing. Our APSD round was bugged for almost all of the last patch, got fixed like 2 weeks ago lol.

As for why the tanks have the exact same 45 pound canon is because of history. lol. British has only had like 4-5 main canon types across the last 70 years and they put the same setup on almost every vehicle in that era. 45 pounder, then the 17 pounder, then the 105, with a few stand outs like the 120, 165, etc.

Basically dont play the UK line unless you want an uphill challenge the whole way through. The tech tree has massive gaps, and you'll be lucky if 1 vehicle per BR bracket is competitive.

[FireFromBehind]

Welcome to the UKnTT, you will sturrgle like crazy till 4.7, after that you are the guy who gives ♥♥♥♥ all about armor

[Shyue Chou]

Originally posted by scorpanok:

What? you telling me that Kevenchi in there just survived a 45 pound mass of steel flying through his tank at him?

You are playing BR 1 to 3.3. Those 2-pounder guns (40 mm) that you are using essentially are 2 pound shots (in reality about 2.3 to 2.4 pounds), not 45 pounds.

And a side note, the 6-pounders (57mm) are essentially 6-pound solid shots (a bit over 6 pounds in reality).

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

Originally posted by scorpanok:

What? you telling me that Kevenchi in there just survived a 45 pound mass of steel flying through his tank at him?

You are playing BR 1 to 3.3. Those 2-pounder guns (40 mm) that you are using essentially are 2 pound shots (in reality about 2.3 to 2.4 pounds), not 45 pounds. :2016snocone:

And a side note, the 6-pounders (57mm) are essentially 6-pound solid shots (a bit over 6 pounds in reality).

Yeah, and if it barely penetrates, there's a good chance not all of that projectile makes it through as well.