How to counter MiG-21 and F-5s with Harriers?

[Colonel Jason]

I get uptiered every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ match and in every one of them there is a always one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mig or f5 yooing my ass and I cant do anything about it.Is there any tactic I should know? I'm about to lose my damn mind.

[JuX]

Welcome to the 9.3-10.3 where you get stomped on by 10.3's and few 10's.

You could possibly dogfight them with thrust vectoring. But problem with that is the massive player count in battle. So you are likely to get blasted by 3rd party aircraft before you can even win a dogfight. So you might be better off flying near the ground to ward off top down gun attacks.

At the very least check your six religiously, to avoid getting missiled

[Colonel Jason]

Originally posted by JuX:

Welcome to the 9.3-10.3 where you get stomped on by 10.3's and few 10's.

You could possibly dogfight them with thrust vectoring. But problem with that is the massive player count in battle. So you are likely to get blasted by 3rd party aircraft before you can even win a dogfight. So you might be better off flying near the ground to ward off top down gun attacks.

At the very least check your six religiously, to avoid getting missiled

Thats the thing,I cant.Every match I fight aganist Migs and F-5s and they have flares so my missiles are render useless.And after 5 minutes of in battle I always get one or two F-5s on my back so I cant do nothing about it..

[Original Voltak]

Dont play that tier or play with something else. What you have is no match vs those jets, not now, not ever.

[Colonel Jason]

Too bad I talisman'd harrier gr3..

[halolo39]

planes with no counter measures are pretty dead now

[Neckstabba]

You dont. Just roll over and accept your fate.

[Futuristic Hexagon]

Originally posted by Colonel Jason:

Originally posted by JuX:

Welcome to the 9.3-10.3 where you get stomped on by 10.3's and few 10's.

You could possibly dogfight them with thrust vectoring. But problem with that is the massive player count in battle. So you are likely to get blasted by 3rd party aircraft before you can even win a dogfight. So you might be better off flying near the ground to ward off top down gun attacks.

At the very least check your six religiously, to avoid getting missiled

Thats the thing,I cant.Every match I fight aganist Migs and F-5s and they have flares so my missiles are render useless.And after 5 minutes of in battle I always get one or two F-5s on my back so I cant do nothing about it..

F-5s will almost always have flares.

Early MiG-21 (PFM, F13, S)/J-7II and a chunk of MiG-21SPS-K will have flares. Later MiG-21s will have them.

One thing to note is you're one of the few vehicles the 21 will be able to outrun after bleeding its energy, but I've seen a few folks use the thrust vectoring on the harrier to its advantage on forcing an overshoot.

Assuming you're using the AIM-9G, a good idea is to take them out from a distance and hope they don't notice the missile flying at them from almost 4 km away. It has long legs and just enough maneuverability to get them provided they continue showing their rear end.

The best thing is to go fast and engage at a distance. If they catch you in Gun range, you're going to have a bad time.