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Akagi Apr 26, 2023 @ 1:23pm
Put the Wyvern at higher BR
I genuinly love playing aginst the Wyvern. I love loosing games because that thing just runs away from me, even when equipped with full payload, turning around and eating dmage to at least cause a leaking oil tank and still built up more and more speed.
And seriously, I get the air spawn. But 4.0? What of your statisctics explain how this thing can be considered balanced at 4.0 (aside from the statisctics showing the income you generate from that thing, that's obvious).

This thing needs to go up in br. Minimum 4.3, but I'd bet that thing could still hold itself if put to 4.7
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French Cat Apr 26, 2023 @ 1:53pm 
Well it brings money sooooooo….. 4.0 it will stay :steamsad:
FizzyElf Apr 26, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
The funny thing is, you are fighting the heavily nerfed version of it, it was way stronger when it first released, hell I even got to fight it during its transition to the current nerfed version, it was pretty scary, easily a strong 4.7 and I wouldn't be surprised if the original could preform well at 5.0 or 5.3. As it is now though, all that I'd expect would be more nerfs if they decided to do anything at all.



Originally posted by French Cat:
Well it brings money sooooooo….. 4.0 it will stay :steamsad:
Also this^ its probably the most successful british premium in the game.
Matticus Apr 26, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
If it takes ANY damage, it's a brick, and it was a brick to begin with. It's a garbage fighter, it's one trick is speed at low altitude, get it to turn once and you're golden, if he's smart enough to run, too bad so sad?

Wait until you get into early jets.
Kay Apr 26, 2023 @ 3:28pm 
People running away when it's literally their only option to survive in a plane that's bad at everything else?

Who would've thought.

Honestly I'm fine with it at 4.0, maybe 4.3, but once things can outspeed it on the deck it's effectively worthless.
HudsonM1A2 Apr 26, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
I have it and the only thing it excels is the speed at low alts and payload. Other than that and it's pretty average/below average. Turns like a brick, engine is too sensitive to damage, last time I used it a lot of hits were just sparks and it loses energy like a shorted capacitor.
HudsonM1A2 Apr 26, 2023 @ 4:27pm 
So, no, I don't think that the Wyvern should be placed at a higher BR. I downed one with a J26 (Swedish P-51C, BR 3.7) while it was flying low. Dove and got to it quite easily and it did not get any more distance before being shot down, even though the pilot jinked like his real-life depended on it...
Lucky_Star_Fan Apr 26, 2023 @ 5:30pm 
Wyvern cannot turn, bleeds speed like mad, is a huge target and can have its tail cut loose from a single .50 round. I don't want to say it's straight up balanced but it can't really go up without improvements too.
Inverted_Rouge Apr 26, 2023 @ 5:50pm 
The Wyvern's one thing is speed in a straight line, and it doesn't really have acceleration either so to survive you need to keep your speed and on one line. It is also using the British Hisapano's (Mk 5's I think) which are famous in game for being more akin to sparklers because of all the sparks they'll produce - They really don't do any damage unless you've got a plane form view, and if you've given that to a Wyvern you deserve to be shot down.

It released at 6.7 and was absolute garbage, got stomped by all the super fast, super energy efficient fighters at it's BR and if it got up-tiered it faced jets so either way you were done for as it handles like a brick and isn't fast compared to a jet. So no - It shouldn't go up.
Wagon Wheel Apr 26, 2023 @ 6:14pm 
Does that mean I should buy one?
FizzyElf Apr 26, 2023 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Cosmic_Ray:
Does that mean I should buy one?
It's not a bad bomber and it can head on pretty decently, plus it's decent at boom and zoom but its no where near as good as it was so I would say get it during a sale.
Gjerrigknarken Apr 26, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by Cosmic_Ray:
Does that mean I should buy one?
I like using it in ground RB, if you want/need a ground pounder in both air and ground RB id say the Wyvern is a good choice.
Illusionyary Apr 26, 2023 @ 8:59pm 
It plays like a low altitude jet, when played correctly it's basically untouchable. Not to mention it's not a fighter, it's a ground attack aircraft, it shouldn't be anywhere near 4.0.

Originally posted by HudsonM1A2:
So, no, I don't think that the Wyvern should be placed at a higher BR. I downed one with a J26 (Swedish P-51C, BR 3.7) while it was flying low. Dove and got to it quite easily and it did not get any more distance before being shot down, even though the pilot jinked like his real-life depended on it...
Given the P-51C itself is undertiered having performance similar to the later P-51D just with less guns I'm not surprised.
Akagi Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:21am 
Aww man, guess I really am the only one who hates facing that thing.
Ngl I was kinda pissed yesterday when I tried fighting myself back in a last man standing just to waste 10 minutes trying to do anything about this guy who didn't even try shooting me down and that guy single handedly did enough base damage to make any ground pounding efforts on my side worthless.

I'll just drop my Spitfire (you're too slow) for now and stick to a P-47 or F-6C to assist my friend at 3.7
Santa Claus Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:28am 
The Wyvern has long needed to go up in BR. But Gajinne's decisions to up BR's are tempered by the money they get because they are more about greed than gameplay. If a free plane dominates it's BR, it will go up not because it is better, but because it can upset the balance of the money Gajinne rakes in when it makes people upset. If a PTP plane upsets the BR and a lot of people are still buying that plane because they know it is in a broken BR, Gajinne won't touch it because money is coming in.

Don't let anyone tell you different. Nothing in this game is done for fairness. It is all done for those slippery greenbacks.
Illusionyary Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by Akagi:
Aww man, guess I really am the only one who hates facing that thing.
Ngl I was kinda pissed yesterday when I tried fighting myself back in a last man standing just to waste 10 minutes trying to do anything about this guy who didn't even try shooting me down and that guy single handedly did enough base damage to make any ground pounding efforts on my side worthless.

I'll just drop my Spitfire (you're too slow) for now and stick to a P-47 or F-6C to assist my friend at 3.7
I hate them too. It does like 600~kmh on the deck, thats super prop ~6.0 BR range of speed. Of course, it shouldn't be this high, but it was fine at 5.0 and should be a 4.7 minimum.

My only guess as to why its so low is because of people flying in, destroying one AAA gun then crashing or flying into the hornets nest of the enemy team and dying in 2 minutes. They are extremely annoying to fight and a well played one is practically untouchable requiring numerous planes to bleed it down. Yes its a brick, yes its heavy, but its not a fighter! It's a ground attack aircraft, it shouldn't be able to dictate fights by just running away. No other strike aircraft can do this. I've seen Wyverns wipe teams of enemy fighters, it's not hard if you play it patiently.
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Date Posted: Apr 26, 2023 @ 1:23pm
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