T54's

[K]

All of them are under br, every single one of them needs to be at 8.0 or 8.3, they're so stupid. unless you're using some broken heat round at the tier you're never killing them frontally at range let alone mid range. they have a solid gun that would do better at higher tiers anyhow though at least you can kill the damn things.

This is from years of generally hating them, it's a more braindead IS-6 and that's impressive considering how dumb that tank is, then again I'm not shocked as unless you're being intentionally dense it's obvious to anyone with eyes Russian tanks are ungodly under-tier in nearly all cases once you get around 6.0+

And to be clear I use this bs nation too it's more of a cakewalk than Germany

[Astartes Regis]

Issue of skill, T-54 is absolute garbage at 7.3 and onwards, it only stomps on downtiers because there's just very little that can pen its front.

[Aegis270]

They're strong, but they pay for their armor in soft factors. The turret traverse is very slow, the reload is noticeably longer than average for the tier, they lack gun depression which hampers which map positions they can work. All for armor that, if you happen to be in an uptier, effectively doesn't matter. Not to mention strong AP can and will punch right through the turret front on a good shot.

They should all be 7.7, but they aren't really strong enough for 8.0, let alone 8.3. We already have the T-55A at 8.0, and that's already doing decently there.

[FireFromBehind]

Imagine complaining about the worst 7.3 MBT in the game lol

Definetly a skill issue

[Mr. Black]

I think it is very strong but merely for playing with it, I stomp many times with it

[MashedPotatoww]

It's probably one of the worst tanks around that br, what are you on about bruh...

[FireFromBehind]

Originally posted by MashedPotatoww:

It's probably one of the worst tanks around that br, what are you on about bruh...

It is bad, tho not as bad as Centurion Mk3. That thing is just awful to use

[ArrowViper]

Originally posted by GODZW33D:

All of them are under br, every single one of them needs to be at 8.0 or 8.3, they're so stupid. unless you're using some broken heat round at the tier you're never killing them frontally at range let alone mid range. they have a solid gun that would do better at higher tiers anyhow though at least you can kill the damn things.

This is from years of generally hating them, it's a more braindead IS-6 and that's impressive considering how dumb that tank is, then again I'm not shocked as unless you're being intentionally dense it's obvious to anyone with eyes Russian tanks are ungodly under-tier in nearly all cases once you get around 6.0+

And to be clear I use this bs nation too it's more of a cakewalk than Germany

Skill issue, it sounds like you never played T-54s, they are okay but vastly inferior to Leopards because T-54s are slow due to their armor, which is irrelevant at 7.3 anyway

[ArrowViper]

Originally posted by FireFromBehind:

Imagine complaining about the worst 7.3 MBT in the game lol

Definetly a skill issue

T-54 and M48A1 got to be the worst 7.3 tanks

[ArrowViper]

Originally posted by Aegis270:

They're strong, but they pay for their armor in soft factors. The turret traverse is very slow, the reload is noticeably longer than average for the tier, they lack gun depression which hampers which map positions they can work. All for armor that, if you happen to be in an uptier, effectively doesn't matter. Not to mention strong AP can and will punch right through the turret front on a good shot.

They should all be 7.7, but they aren't really strong enough for 8.0, let alone 8.3. We already have the T-55A at 8.0, and that's already doing decently there.

why would they be 7.7? Most of them are, only the 1949 is 7.3 and it should remain there, armor is useless 7.3 onwards to like 9.0 because HEAT-FS is a thing

[FireFromBehind]

Originally posted by ArrowViper:

Originally posted by FireFromBehind:

Imagine complaining about the worst 7.3 MBT in the game lol

Definetly a skill issue

T-54 and M48A1 got to be the worst 7.3 tanks

Both of them are way batter then Centurion Mk3.

I say this as someone who used all 3.

M48 and T-54 suffer from stock grind, centurion mk3 is just awful, mainly due APDS shattering every time you try to shoot and bad post pen damage

[K]

Oddly dense people in comments, I've played almost 100 games so far with a 3,9 kd, they're disgustingly undertier, yeah heat kills them what doesn't heat kill? right nothing, vs any conventional rounds it's near impossibly to pen. (don't be pedantic and claim "Brits" yeah no ♥♥♥♥ then lol pen everything at this teir)

[Aegis270]

Originally posted by GODZW33D:

Oddly dense people in comments, I've played almost 100 games so far with a 3,9 kd, they're disgustingly undertier, yeah heat kills them what doesn't heat kill? right nothing, vs any conventional rounds it's near impossibly to pen. (don't be pedantic and claim "Brits" yeah no ♥♥♥♥ then lol pen everything at this teir)

I kill them all the time with conventional rounds. Just need to know where to aim. Either side of the turret is an easy pen for almost all AP rounds at the tier. The only ones that struggle are the American short 90mm M82, which is still common at that tier, but that's why you also bring HEAT with it. And the tanks that rely on that round are themselves in need of a downtiering, IMO.

Originally posted by ArrowViper:

Originally posted by Aegis270:

They're strong, but they pay for their armor in soft factors. The turret traverse is very slow, the reload is noticeably longer than average for the tier, they lack gun depression which hampers which map positions they can work. All for armor that, if you happen to be in an uptier, effectively doesn't matter. Not to mention strong AP can and will punch right through the turret front on a good shot.

They should all be 7.7, but they aren't really strong enough for 8.0, let alone 8.3. We already have the T-55A at 8.0, and that's already doing decently there.

why would they be 7.7? Most of them are, only the 1949 is 7.3 and it should remain there, armor is useless 7.3 onwards to like 9.0 because HEAT-FS is a thing

The 1949 should be 7.7 because armor does matter at 6.3/6.7. There are some low caliber HEAT-FS rounds available, but there's a substantial number of tanks that rely on APHE that lack the penetration to get through anywhere frontally. The short American 90mm, the long 88mm, the long French 90mm and 75mm,, even APCBC from the 20 pounder can't get through the turret front.

You could maybe, maybe argue the 1947 should go down, because it actually has a quite vulnerable turret that most of those rounds can get through. But the 1949 can roll through most of what it sees without worry. I still don't know why their order got switched. The 1947 has a stronger hull, but it's not strong enough to bounce anything that could've gotten through the 1949/51's hulls.

[Elijah1]

Yeah.... T-54 is pretty bad
Sounds like skill issue

[Shyue Chou]

I have used all three T-54s extensively when I was progressing through the tree and getting my T-72B3 and T-80BVM and I can't say they are great tanks, they simply belong where they are at those stated battle ratings. In any case, you said you have a 3.9:1 K/D, well, you are clearly a lot more skilful than I am.

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Theres a new skill issue for everything it seems