why is M36B2 5.7?

[FD_Stalker]

It used to be absurd enough to have 3 lolpen TD at US 6.7, now gaijin give this HEATFS to 5.7?? And people still say "lol tiger just angle" how are you gonna angle against 300 lol pen coldwar gun? German only got the same shell at 6.3, on a TD without turret. This shell is good even for 7.7, it does not belong to wwii. It's not like US doesn't have armor to fill up the line(sweden and Israel)

[CaptainSpacetime]

the gun handling is bad and it's got no armor?

and it's from ww2 not the cold war...

[Colonel Jason]

No armor,slow as hell,open top,decent turret rotation speed..
Another skill issue topic,next.

[Darkdan777]

Someone wanna tell him about the Swedish TD at 4.0 with HEAT-FS

[Lucky_Star_Fan]

Germany suffers...

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

the gun handling is bad and it's got no armor?

and it's from ww2 not the cold war...

Originally posted by Colonel Jason:

No armor,slow as hell,open top,decent turret rotation speed..
Another skill issue topic,next.

In this game eff. pen is everything, just like waffentrager could swipe enemy spawn in Poland even it got no armor and open top, but waffentrager at same br only got a long 88 bouncing around 6.7, m36b2 M341 HEATFS(which is an post war shell) can deal with most 7.7 armor easily.

Originally posted by Darkdan777:

Someone wanna tell him about the Swedish TD at 4.0 with HEAT-FS

Swedish is another problem, people want this faction and gaijin had to fill the line, and even give a 400 pen M4 to Italy, but these are minor factions, and US already has a fat line with crazy armor thickness HTs and good mobility all-arounders plus turret TD around 5.7 why gaijin still add another lolpen turret TD to it? It's like those lolpen TD at 6.7 are not enough

[Shyue Chou]

I actually do like my Semovente 75/18 M41 at BR 2.0 with its 100 mm of HEAT. Yes, it takes multiple shots to effect a kill, so, I tend to park at 700 metres or so to achieve that.

Likewise, I like my Pz IV E for the same reasons, BR 2.0 with 100 mm of HEAT. I just sit far away and fling HEAT.

Yes, I know most people don't do this but this is what I do with my BR 2.0 vehicles. I throw HEAT at small tanks.

[traitorjoe]

the APHE round is literally scarier than the HEAT round cope skill issue

[BTGbullseye]

You really like saying "lolpen" for some reason...

[Aegis270]

Because it gives the US lineup at 5.7 an option to deal with Panthers that doesn't require gambling on the volumetric hellhole that is the Panther mantlet? Or angled Tigers past 500 meters?

The American 5.7 lineup really lacked a high pen gun, as well as something useable at longer ranges. The M36B2 solves both those issues. And I believe it pays for it's penetration by remaining an incredibly vulnerable vehicle and relying on 90mm HEAT damage.

I'd far prefer to be playing the Nashorn or Waffentrager over the M36B2, as the long 88 already has enough pen to realistically deal with anything I can see, plus the HE filler means I'm far more likely to oneshot what I hit.

[OcGuy]

lol skill issue, it is literally just the same M36 with funny HEAT shell that is less reliable than the APHE

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by OcGuy:

lol skill issue, it is literally just the same M36 with funny HEAT shell that is less reliable than the APHE

"A Funny HEAT" which can erase IS6 IS3 IS4 T54 T95 Jagdtiger frontally, also OHK any light armored vehicle due to the TNT equivalent in there. This BS shell requires no skill and should not be presented at 5.7

Originally posted by BTGbullseye:

You really like saying "lolpen" for some reason...

Becuase it is, I use that against T95 frontally, erased a gang of is4 is3 and T54 spawn pushers in 2 mins, and spawn lock on many maps that are open-field. This shell pens through anything, turning game literally an FPS. And that's above 6.3 where most of enemy has coldwar zoom to find you out, now you have this in 5.7 you can easily snipe everyone to death as long as you have a good screen to read pixels, against a bunch of slowas wwii who move and maneuver like sitting duck

[legaroojack]

The Germany main is shocked and confused when it has to face an opponent that can easily pen their armour.

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by Aegis270:

Because it gives the US lineup at 5.7 an option to deal with Panthers that doesn't require gambling on the volumetric hellhole that is the Panther mantlet? Or angled Tigers past 500 meters?

The American 5.7 lineup really lacked a high pen gun, as well as something useable at longer ranges. The M36B2 solves both those issues. And I believe it pays for it's penetration by remaining an incredibly vulnerable vehicle and relying on 90mm HEAT damage.

I'd far prefer to be playing the Nashorn or Waffentrager over the M36B2, as the long 88 already has enough pen to realistically deal with anything I can see, plus the HE filler means I'm far more likely to oneshot what I hit.

I agree with you about waffentrager, it's perfect for its br and role, good enough for anything otherthan pushing an obj. However Nashorn, is just an absolute worse version of dickmax. It has no depression, heavily relying on your first spot since you can't play it normally behind cover, and it has no armor and open top... using Nashorn I rather abuse my IV 70v even more, even it can't eff pen many heavies, at least it's a tank/assassin

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by Legaroojack:

The Germany main is shocked and confused when it has to face an opponent that can easily pen their armour.

We german box get penned all day long, just how many heavy armored vehicle german has from 5.3 to 7.7? Compare to US M4a3e2 and his friends, and a tank company of different type of T series big heads, another company of M series and T28 at 6.3??? T95? Then Russia, with another company of IS and t series with crazy slop armor and bouncing magic. There is a reason why every good german players excellent at sniping, because we can't afford to take a single shot

[legaroojack]

Originally posted by FD_Stalker:

Originally posted by Legaroojack:

The Germany main is shocked and confused when it has to face an opponent that can easily pen their armour.

We german box get penned all day long, just how many heavy armored vehicle german has from 5.3 to 7.7? Compare to US M4a3e2 and his friends, and a tank company of different type of T series big heads, and T28 at 6.3??? T95? Then Russia, with another company of IS and t series with crazy slop armor and bouncing magic. There is a reason why every good german players excellent at sniping, because we can't afford to take a single shot

All of the panthers and all of the tigers are very well armoured with amazing guns. You just don't know how to use your amour and you rush forward then complain about how someone killed your unangled tiger. Also I'm a Germany main. This is entirely a skill issue.