Fake tanks of War Thunder

[Toxa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZPcnv6hN7Y

I'm going to leave this as information for anyone interested.

[Eftwyrd]

Gopnik の投稿を引用：

Eftwyrd の投稿を引用：

If you don’t know for yourself without watching some nobody’s YouTube video then it clearly isn’t affecting you

I've pointed out this problem more than a year ago.

And we have also had people complain about panther f not existing despite there being a turret sitting in bovington museum, and people complain about various prototypes seeing limited production and/or no combat. What is the actual problem if we have to give someone a detailed rundown of a very rare vehicle in a period of history for which there are few records to educate them otherwise. Most people are too ignorant outside of a bare handful of vehicles to know what is real or not and each and every one draws their own line

By all means I don’t think gaijin should have free rein to make stuff up, but they have changed their standards over the years and gotten rid of the most egregious examples where viable alternatives exist. No they don’t get outright removed from player’s inventory because that is a PR disaster but preventing new people getting them has seen them become increasingly rare

Some like the Japanese r2y2s don’t have much chance of being removed unfortunately simply because no alternative ever existed so removing them now would completely remove a capability from Japanese players, that is something I can live with

[RollClassic]

Armored Warfare didn't copy WoT though. If anything, Armored Warfare copied a pile of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it found on the side of the road by using only modern tanks and making artillery so god awful because they straight up read the "We hate arty" kids crying in World of Tanks and thought "We'll make it suck that'll get people to play!".

You sound like you just hate world of tanks and have a personal bias against it as if you're in the War Thunder tribe and the big bad World of Tanks tribe next door might steal your mangos and starve your village.

I could really get into how Gaijin PROBABLY planned everything for monetization ahead of time, false scarcity of "rare" vehicles that aren't even good that you can then sell to other players, but only through a first party currency you have to buy with cash. How so many fake/paper/prototype vehicles end up on the gaijin market, or how they sell a reskinned versionn of a vehicle in another tech tree for $70 that World of Tanks just has as a normal vehicle or a $5 tier 5 premium. But I won't. That'd be just terrible of me.

[DrunkenTee]

redned の投稿を引用：

şak şak の投稿を引用：

im genuinly asking your point ? this video isnt proof for anything i played world of tanks same amount as WT some WW2 tanks use made up parts to make up for their lack of damage or mobility comparing these two proves what ?

my point is that people claim russia has the most fake tanks. yet the panther 2 and tiger 10.5cm were in the game. oh and let's not forget the coelian.

I don't need the video as proof gaijin has acknowledged they were fake and removed them.

Tell me your IQ is below 80 without telling me your IQ is below 80.

If you go to count, Russia has more "fake" tanks in the terms of this video, than Germany. You must be very ignorant to fully disregard that.

[French Cat]

redned の投稿を引用：

DrunkenTee の投稿を引用：

Tell me your IQ is below 80 without telling me your IQ is below 80.

If you go to count, Russia has more "fake" tanks in the terms of this video, than Germany. You must be very ignorant to fully disregard that.

do you even know your IQ this will tell me a lot about you.
I don't know mine, I don't brag to be smart.
but I bet you know yours and you only sort it out to prove to yourself how smart you are.

Rude, apologize to him this instant.

[RollClassic]

Imagine posting 4 separate posts in a row.

[Weltreisender]

RollClassic の投稿を引用：

redned の投稿を引用：

it was not just copied from another game you are literally talking out your ass, straight miss information.

Spoken like somebody who didn't play both games when they were new.

This myth that Gaijin made War Thunder historical is so over played. Nothing in this game is historically accurate, half of the soviet vehicles perform unrealistically in both reload time and survivability "for balance reasons", and until you get to modern vehicles they face things almost decades older than them, when in reality Russia is CURRENTLY using 60 year old tanks in their current war.

This is a fantasy game. Treat is as such. Add more blueprint vehicles in. :) Game's already fake everything's made up and the stats don't matter, might as well make it fun by adding in more blueprint tanks.

The sad truth.

[Eftwyrd]

Weltreisender の投稿を引用：

RollClassic の投稿を引用：

Spoken like somebody who didn't play both games when they were new.

This myth that Gaijin made War Thunder historical is so over played. Nothing in this game is historically accurate, half of the soviet vehicles perform unrealistically in both reload time and survivability "for balance reasons", and until you get to modern vehicles they face things almost decades older than them, when in reality Russia is CURRENTLY using 60 year old tanks in their current war.

This is a fantasy game. Treat is as such. Add more blueprint vehicles in. :) Game's already fake everything's made up and the stats don't matter, might as well make it fun by adding in more blueprint tanks.

The sad truth.

I find it more than a little confusing that people can’t comprehend claiming historically accurate vehicles does not mean they will be put in historically accurate situations…it’s really not a hard concept to get your head around

Every single game ever made takes liberties with reality, even the hardest mil sims, it’s just the degree and the fact that arma doesn’t depict perfectly accurate field medicine, triage and casevac doesn’t make it any more an arcade game.

I have some bad news for you that physics engines don’t actually use real world physics either but use shortcuts because real to life physics engines are both less efficient and don’t actually add any fun

when you press w there is not a physically simulated human pressing there foot down on a phyically simulated pedal, with the engine sumulating fuel-air chemical reactions to drive a drive shaft etc etc

some abstraction is absolutely always necessary and if your personal threshold differs from that of the game doesnt make everything all the same arcade experience. Your position has no nuance

[Toxa]

DrunkenTee の投稿を引用：

redned の投稿を引用：

my point is that people claim russia has the most fake tanks. yet the panther 2 and tiger 10.5cm were in the game. oh and let's not forget the coelian.

I don't need the video as proof gaijin has acknowledged they were fake and removed them.

Tell me your IQ is below 80 without telling me your IQ is below 80.

If you go to count, Russia has more "fake" tanks in the terms of this video, than Germany. You must be very ignorant to fully disregard that.

You failed to name a single fake tank of the USSR. I take it as you are just trying to provoke people.

[RollClassic]

Eftwyrd の投稿を引用：

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Crazy how all these historical inaccuracies directly improve Russian tanks and make other tanks perform worse than IRL.

Crazy how many NATO vehicles are still missing armor and tech that they're confirmed to have after years of Gaijin "looking into it" but a certain union of soviets has prototypes from 2023 as premium vehicles at lower than 12.0. :)

Crazy how they can confirm the exact specifications of a vehicle that wasn't completed until this year, that's been out for longer than it's been completed.

[Weltreisender]

RollClassic の投稿を引用：

Eftwyrd の投稿を引用：

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Crazy how all these historical inaccuracies directly improve Russian tanks and make other tanks perform worse than IRL.

Crazy how many NATO vehicles are still missing armor and tech that they're confirmed to have after years of Gaijin "looking into it" but a certain union of soviets has prototypes from 2023 as premium vehicles at lower than 12.0. :)

Crazy how they can confirm the exact specifications of a vehicle that wasn't completed until this year, that's been out for longer than it's been completed.

Can you give an example of a NATO tank?

[Weltreisender]

redned の投稿を引用：

Weltreisender の投稿を引用：

The sad truth.

not even close to the truth. it's delusion

Could you elaborate please?

[Futuristic Hexagon]

The only paper vehicles I know for ground had long been removed. Everything we have made it to a physical prototype (whether it's behavior or not is proper is another discussion.) We do have a lot of vehicles that were just prototypes or one offs unfortunately, like the I-185 series of aircraft, and the obj.279 being notable examples.

For air, there are a few legacy planes that didn't exist in the completed form we have in game (the R2Y jets series being a well known example) and I think the Ki-200 IIRC since Japan didn't have anything to use until later on, and again with their F-16 which is more less based off a sales brochure.

[FD_Stalker]

Not enough, we need E75 with 128 gun and 300 turret at 7.0 and E50 with 105 gun at 7.0 too

[The Roach]

Gopnik の投稿を引用：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZPcnv6hN7Y

I'm going to leave this as information for anyone interested.

he is literally called gopnik of course he is BIASED for Russia...

[Toxa]

𐍂ð𐌰ζ𐌷 の投稿を引用：

Gopnik の投稿を引用：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZPcnv6hN7Y

I'm going to leave this as information for anyone interested.

he is literally called gopnik of course he is BIASED for Russia...

Could you deposit evidence?