Petition to Fix CAS (Inspired by WhiskeyFalcons)

[Bu3(SW)]

I think we need to revamp CAS and while I agree with the concept I think my solution will work a little bit better and be in the best interest of balance and fun.

Increase the cost of CAS under normal battle conditions to 1400sp and make it so that if your team is losing by half the sp of the other team that cost is reduced to 300sp.

CAS was never meant to be used as a primary strike tactic but as the name implies it is suppose to be support. So making players primary only have access after either a significant effort put in or till it is a situation of dire need can help to rebalance a fun aspect of the game and reduce ground battles essentially just being air 2.0.

[MaDeuce]

So make it more like a call of duty kill streak reward...
Wrong direction completely in my opinion.
Though I'm bias, because the only reason I play ground RB is to fly.

[Raider]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

So make it more like a call of duty kill streak reward...
Wrong direction completely in my opinion.

as it should be.

slamming yourself to a point with a 100kmh toyota and j'İn out to spawn with a fully loaded strike aircraft should not be a thing.

[MaDeuce]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

So make it more like a call of duty kill streak reward...
Wrong direction completely in my opinion.

as it should be.

slamming yourself to a point with a 100kmh toyota and j'İn out to spawn with a fully loaded strike aircraft should not be a thing.

I agree.
I think people should be able to spawn air assets from the start of the match.
What do you think about that?

[Bu3(SW)]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

So make it more like a call of duty kill streak reward...
Wrong direction completely in my opinion.
Though I'm bias, because the only reason I play ground RB is to fly.

Not sure what it is with you and COD lo but no not like COD as this would give an advantage to the losing team so that they could call in for help.

[Raider]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥:

as it should be.

slamming yourself to a point with a 100kmh toyota and j'İn out to spawn with a fully loaded strike aircraft should not be a thing.

That's your opinion.
I think people should be able to spawn air assets from the start of the match.
What do you think about that?

why not play ARB at that point?

plus you already can spawn with some fighters and helis, assuming you take no air to ground armaments

[MaDeuce]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

That's your opinion.
I think people should be able to spawn air assets from the start of the match.
What do you think about that?

why not play ARB at that point?

plus you already can spawn with some fighters and helis, assuming you take no air to ground armaments

Air RB is trash. Enemies are marked in red, mini radar, furball team death match. No, you cannot spawn airplanes, at all.

[Bu3(SW)]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥:

why not play ARB at that point?

plus you already can spawn with some fighters and helis, assuming you take no air to ground armaments

Air RB is trash. Enemies are marked in red, mini radar, furball team death match. No, you cannot spawn airplanes, at all.

Sounds like you need to petition to make that mode better than instead of enabling the degradation of ground mode because you do not like flying in the mode designated for it.

[MaDeuce]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

Air RB is trash. Enemies are marked in red, mini radar, furball team death match. No, you cannot spawn airplanes, at all.

Sounds like you need to petition to make that mode better than instead of enabling the degradation of ground mode because you do not like flying in the mode designated for it.

Ground RB is, literally, designed to fly in it.
You're the one with the problem, hommie.

[Bu3(SW)]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Abinadi:

Sounds like you need to petition to make that mode better than instead of enabling the degradation of ground mode because you do not like flying in the mode designated for it.

Ground RB is, literally, designed to fly in it.
You're the one with the problem, hommie.

I am not petitioning to remove CAS. I am petitioning for balance.

[MaDeuce]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

Ground RB is, literally, designed to fly in it.
You're the one with the problem, hommie.

I am not petitioning to remove CAS. I am petitioning for balance.

You're telling me to go fix a game mode I have no desire to play in, while implying that people who like to fly have no place in a game mode designed specifically for that purpose.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Abinadi:

Sounds like you need to petition to make that mode better than

[Bu3(SW)]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Abinadi:

I am not petitioning to remove CAS. I am petitioning for balance.

You're telling me to go fix a game mode I have no desire to play in, while implying that people who like to fly have no place in a game mode designed specifically for that purpose.

Sounds like you need to petition to make that mode better than

"Air RB is trash. Enemies are marked in red, mini radar, furball team death match. No, you cannot spawn airplanes, at all."

You want to fly but wont fly in that mode for these reasons.

Also I never said taking planes away from ground is the solution. I think that would be bad for the game. However increased spawn point cost can balance the game so there is not a sky full of CAS on one team cleaning up every single tank because tanks are inherently not good at defending against it and SPAA is notoriously bad.

So as I said the solution is having aircraft in moderation by increasing their cost except for when a team is more than half their tickets behind. In that case they would be given a chance to come back by calling in cheaper CAS.

[MaDeuce]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Abinadi:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaDeuce:

You're telling me to go fix a game mode I have no desire to play in, while implying that people who like to fly have no place in a game mode designed specifically for that purpose.

"Air RB is trash. Enemies are marked in red, mini radar, furball team death match. No, you cannot spawn airplanes, at all."

You want to fly but wont fly in that mode for these reasons.

Also I never said taking planes away from ground is the solution. I think that would be bad for the game. However increased spawn point cost can balance the game so there is not a sky full of CAS on one team cleaning up every single tank because tanks are inherently not good at defending against it and SPAA is notoriously bad.

So as I said the solution is having aircraft in moderation by increasing their cost except for when a team is more than half their tickets behind. In that case they would be given a chance to come back by calling in cheaper CAS.

For the sake of not continuing an argument that isn't going anywhere, I'll concede. Have nice day.

[devious little creature]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Abinadi:

I think we need to revamp CAS and while I agree with the concept I think my solution will work a little bit better and be in the best interest of balance and fun.

Increase the cost of CAS under normal battle conditions to 1400sp and make it so that if your team is losing by half the sp of the other team that cost is reduced to 300sp.

CAS was never meant to be used as a primary strike tactic but as the name implies it is suppose to be support. So making players primary only have access after either a significant effort put in or till it is a situation of dire need can help to rebalance a fun aspect of the game and reduce ground battles essentially just being air 2.0.

i bet you play a nation that is cas'less, cope cope cope and cope spawn spaa.

[Bu3(SW)]

Diposting pertama kali oleh devious little creature:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Abinadi:

I think we need to revamp CAS and while I agree with the concept I think my solution will work a little bit better and be in the best interest of balance and fun.

Increase the cost of CAS under normal battle conditions to 1400sp and make it so that if your team is losing by half the sp of the other team that cost is reduced to 300sp.

CAS was never meant to be used as a primary strike tactic but as the name implies it is suppose to be support. So making players primary only have access after either a significant effort put in or till it is a situation of dire need can help to rebalance a fun aspect of the game and reduce ground battles essentially just being air 2.0.

i bet you play a nation that is cas'less, cope cope cope and cope spawn spaa.

I play all nations regularly. I have played as CAS and I have played as SPAA. There are only a few viable SPAA and there are dozens of viable CAS,

[Eftwyrd]

In my opinion aircraft without ordinance or exclusively air to air ordinance when missiles come into play should be greatly discounted (obviously special rules will have to apply to certain outliers like the narwhal, duck etc).

There is a huge untapped potential for air to air play but those who would defend their team are getting hit by absurd spawn costs, once you have earned that much many will just go all the way to attackers rather than miss the opportunity

It’s also sad that the air to air experience is actually better in ground rb not including the arcade markers like air rb does so I and I think many others would actually first spawn a fighter and happily shoot down all the low hanging fruit that spawn attackers they don’t really know how to use

As far as other suggestions I feel like rather than limit the number of aircraft which might limit people like me using them as air to air, instead introduce a reoccurring cost for ordinance. Rather than free reloads you should have to pay the spawn points for the bombs and rockets again on the airfield or go without so long living cas don’t snowball quite so hard with subsequent attackers and bombers become less affordable

I would also personally like to see weather take more of a part, while they won’t give us zero visibility storms in air modes because many aircraft just won’t operate effectively in that, there is nothing stopping ground combat in filthy weather. So add some nastier weather effects to ground modes that make life difficult for air, not something for every match obviously but would add some variety