How come they gave the british a 12k lb bomb?

[Donut]

British planes have always had very meh bombers and i do understand giving them better bombs but really a 12 thousand lb bomb is a bit much especially now that they already have the choice 8000lb and 4000lb bombs and i've always dreaded the thought of a pe-8 dropping a near inescapable bomb and now i gotta worry about an actual inescapable bomb from the lancaster like that radius of that thing is stupidly long

And since a majority of time soviets are with the british now i gotta worry about both planes possibly spawning at once to rape enemy spawn

[Inverted_Rouge]

Because the Lancasters used it, 'nuf said.

[Knugen]

Turns out the Tall boy is one hell of a bomb.

[BurgerKing]

Yeah imagine early capping a point, Hold J, spawn in a Lancaster with a 12000lb bomb and just remove half of the lobby without even using a smidgen of skill. Ground Realistic Battles isn't fun anymore and it's more of a Air RB with Live Targets.

[Vkhani12345]

because boom = funny

[Donut]

Originally posted by Inverted_Rouge:

Because the Lancasters used it, 'nuf said.

Not really a valid arguement

The heaviest/biggest bombs the germans get i believe is the SC 2500kg bomb (not anywhere as big as pe-8 or lancaster) and this bomb can only be exclusively used with the HE-111 yet historically was also used with the Me 264 (it could carry two), He-177 and the HE-111 H-16, so even with germanys largest bomb (which still isn't anywhere as big as lancaster or pe-8) only the He-111 can carry it yet historically there was also 3 other planes all of which are already in war thunder yet none of them have the option ingame

and if we are talking about other bombs that should be added ''because the (insert name) used it'' there's also the V1 flying bomb which was used but still isn't in war thunder

Historic accuracy isn't the problem i'm focusing on, its game play. Adding extra mini nukes for people to be using is only going to further create a problem of people spawning and being killed immediately or as said above people rushing to cap a point, killing themselves only to spawn in a extremely wide radius bomb and simply dropping it on the enemy spawn. Very few people if anyone, actually spawn Anti-Air first so i guess ya just screwed now right?

Already have friends switching over to british just so they can spawn camp/team wipe the enemy team

[Kay]

Originally posted by ewen.work:

Turns out the Tall boy is one hell of a bomb.

It's not the Tallboy, it's three cookies welded together. The Tallboy is an MC Earthquake bomb, the 12,000lb bomb we have is a HC bomb.

Originally posted by Donut:

and if we are talking about other bombs that should be added ''because the (insert name) used it'' there's also the V1 flying bomb which was used but still isn't in war thunder

And which aircraft or ground vehicle launched those?

[FireFromBehind]

Originally posted by ewen.work:

Turns out the Tall boy is one hell of a bomb.

That aint the tall boy, we have yet to get it.

The 12k lbs is literally 3x 4000 lbs cookie bombs straped together

[FireFromBehind]

Originally posted by Donut:

British planes have always had very meh bombers and i do understand giving them better bombs but really a 12 thousand lb bomb is a bit much especially now that they already have the choice 8000lb and 4000lb bombs and i've always dreaded the thought of a pe-8 dropping a near inescapable bomb and now i gotta worry about an actual inescapable bomb from the lancaster like that radius of that thing is stupidly long

And since a majority of time soviets are with the british now i gotta worry about both planes possibly spawning at once to rape enemy spawn

Big bomb go boom. It's a bomber, a single fighter is enough to take care of it

[Donut]

Originally posted by Kay:

Originally posted by ewen.work:

Turns out the Tall boy is one hell of a bomb.

It's not the Tallboy, it's three cookies welded together. The Tallboy is an MC Earthquake bomb, the 12,000lb bomb we have is a HC bomb.

Originally posted by Donut:

and if we are talking about other bombs that should be added ''because the (insert name) used it'' there's also the V1 flying bomb which was used but still isn't in war thunder

And which aircraft or ground vehicle launched those?

V1's were able to be dropped by the Fw 200 a plane of which is also already in war thunder as a german bomber at 2.3

there was also variants of other aircraft like the He 111 h22 which was able to drop V1 flying bomb but this plane has also yet to be added to war thunder probably because there's no point adding a unique plane to the game when the bomb for said plane hasn't been added yet

Again this isn't an argument saying the Flying bomb should be added but rather a remark that just because something was used it doesn't mean it should be added

[Donut]

Originally posted by FireFromBehind:

Originally posted by Donut:

British planes have always had very meh bombers and i do understand giving them better bombs but really a 12 thousand lb bomb is a bit much especially now that they already have the choice 8000lb and 4000lb bombs and i've always dreaded the thought of a pe-8 dropping a near inescapable bomb and now i gotta worry about an actual inescapable bomb from the lancaster like that radius of that thing is stupidly long

And since a majority of time soviets are with the british now i gotta worry about both planes possibly spawning at once to rape enemy spawn

Big bomb go boom. It's a bomber, a single fighter is enough to take care of it

How many times do you actually see a fighter kill a mini nuke bomber like the Pe-8 before it actually drops the load? i have something like 644 hours and very very very few times have i actually seen that happen, I've seen fighters kill the bomber plenty of times AFTER the bomb load has been deployed but very few times before

While im sure fighters and Anti-air can kill the plane (as its not unkillable) the chance of them actually killing the plane before it drops the load is pretty damn low especially in Ground realistic

[FireFromBehind]

Originally posted by Donut:

Originally posted by FireFromBehind:

Big bomb go boom. It's a bomber, a single fighter is enough to take care of it

How many times do you actually see a fighter kill a mini nuke bomber like the Pe-8 before it actually drops the load? i have something like 644 hours and very very very few times have i actually seen that happen, I've seen fighters kill the bomber plenty of times AFTER the bomb load has been deployed but very few times before

While im sure fighters and Anti-air can kill the plane (as its not unkillable) the chance of them actually killing the plane before it drops the load is pretty damn low especially in Ground realistic

Actually a lot of times.

Hell, I did it myself a lot of times as Pe-8 isnt exactly a fast bomber

[Kay]

Originally posted by Donut:

Originally posted by Kay:

It's not the Tallboy, it's three cookies welded together. The Tallboy is an MC Earthquake bomb, the 12,000lb bomb we have is a HC bomb.



And which aircraft or ground vehicle launched those?

V1's were able to be dropped by the Fw 200 a plane of which is also already in war thunder as a german bomber at 2.3

there was also variants of other aircraft like the He 111 h22 which was able to drop V1 flying bomb but this plane has also yet to be added to war thunder probably because there's no point adding a unique plane to the game when the bomb for said plane hasn't been added yet

Again this isn't an argument saying the Flying bomb should be added but rather a remark that just because something was used it doesn't mean it should be added

You've done a poor job then, since if it was launched from an aircraft I'm all for it being added, it'd be really cool to see it in game (as with pretty much any other weapon used on the vehicles in game)

[Donut]

Originally posted by FireFromBehind:

Originally posted by Donut:

How many times do you actually see a fighter kill a mini nuke bomber like the Pe-8 before it actually drops the load? i have something like 644 hours and very very very few times have i actually seen that happen, I've seen fighters kill the bomber plenty of times AFTER the bomb load has been deployed but very few times before

While im sure fighters and Anti-air can kill the plane (as its not unkillable) the chance of them actually killing the plane before it drops the load is pretty damn low especially in Ground realistic

Actually a lot of times.

Hell, I did it myself a lot of times as Pe-8 isnt exactly a fast bomber

Most of the time people (including myself) tend to do high altitude bombing a way of which speed isn't really important

If people dive bomb with the pe-8 im sure speed would matter a heap and im sure they have the highest likely chance to be shot down as i've actually shot a few down myself but again i've shot them down even when they've dive bombed AFTER the load has been dropped

There have been times i've avoided death in my pe-8 by just going to high altitude, dropping my load and going back to base, only to reload and fly back up

[Donut]

Originally posted by Kay:

Originally posted by Donut:

V1's were able to be dropped by the Fw 200 a plane of which is also already in war thunder as a german bomber at 2.3

there was also variants of other aircraft like the He 111 h22 which was able to drop V1 flying bomb but this plane has also yet to be added to war thunder probably because there's no point adding a unique plane to the game when the bomb for said plane hasn't been added yet

Again this isn't an argument saying the Flying bomb should be added but rather a remark that just because something was used it doesn't mean it should be added

You've done a poor job then, since if it was launched from an aircraft I'm all for it being added, it'd be really cool to see it in game (as with pretty much any other weapon used on the vehicles in game)

So your all for it being added so long as its historically accurate and the argument leans to one side being the its historically accurate ?

British tankers were sometimes equipped with the S.T grenade (sticky grenade) that was used against other tanks, Does this mean it should be added cause its historically accurate? we already have some tanks with soldiers sticking out from above so why not?

i wonder how deep it goes if your idea of ''all for it being added'' is strictly weapons used historically or we are including tanks

There's the german Kugelpazer, Only one was made and it was sent to japan where it was captured by the soviets in Manchuria. It was never used in combat but hey at least one was made? Guess your all good for it being added since it was made tho right? we all good to see a giant ball rolling around the battlefield

There's also the Bob Semple tank that the New Zealanders developed which was pretty much just a tractor with a bunch of steel added onto it, but it was historically made so i guess thats all g too, British are gonna love it in their tree, A extremely fragile and slow ''tank'' that is only armed with MGs

On the topic of historically accurate tractor tanks there's also the Yanvartsy which was a handmade tank that also happened to be made from a tractor and not only were they made but they were actually used in combat carrying what was it? two machineguns. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the soviets are gonna have a field day, sure the tank can barely move, broke down extremely often and gets penned by anything thats 45mm or bigger rounds

But ey their historically accurate and thats all that matters right?

i was also gonna mention the churchhill crocodile but fortunately for us thats already been added to the game and as we can see its one of the best british tanks, its a good thing they weren't thinking about gameplay and more about historical accuracy... Man they should add the Flammpanzer 38(t) and the flamethrower panzer 2 ♥♥♥♥ would be epic as like sure they have no anti tank capabilities but that doesn't matter

[The Roach]

Originally posted by Duck.exe:

Yeah imagine early capping a point, Hold J, spawn in a Lancaster with a 12000lb bomb and just remove half of the lobby without even using a smidgen of skill. Ground Realistic Battles isn't fun anymore and it's more of a Air RB with Live Targets.

Russia Exists. there tech tree required no skill at all.