A7D is a Utter turd to play.

[Cpt. Obvious]

Refer to above.

This applies to Air RB. I Do not GAF about ground.

[SASMrSmall]

Just don't get hit, just dodge and just do not get destroyed, also just have ace games every match

[Cpt. Obvious]

Originally posted by SASMrSmall:

Just don't get hit, just dodge and just do not get destroyed, also just have ace games every match

Why didn't I think of that, I'm just a agile little butter fly equipped with Aim 9X's!

[JuX]

You don't care about ground battles and yet you advanced a CAS techline.

[frick]

*plays attacker aircraft, meant for CAS*
"i don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about ground"
"why is it bad?"

[Solaire]

Originally posted by frick:

*plays attacker aircraft, meant for CAS*
"i don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about ground"
"why is it bad?"

Should still have a fair BR for when they are used in air battles no? I mean look at the Su-25s and A-10? They're cas aircraft and completely dominate air battles. Oh but those ones cost real money

[Futuristic Hexagon]

Originally posted by Solaire:

Originally posted by frick:

*plays attacker aircraft, meant for CAS*
"i don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about ground"
"why is it bad?"

Should still have a fair BR for when they are used in air battles no? I mean look at the Su-25s and A-10? They're cas aircraft and completely dominate air battles. Oh but those ones cost real money

Su-25K and A-10A early. They have tree versions which are roughly equivilent (though I think the A-10A late gets 2 more AIM-9Ls and a slightly higher BR now.)

With that said, there is some usage for CAS in game and they do well. AV-8A was built more for ground attack. And those bigger maps they get quite useful for that as the battle and AI isn't concentrated at the center of the map and the large amount of real estate.

The A-7D does get its moments, and it can carry 2x AIM-9J which themselves are still good missiles at that BR. I guess the key is to play it like a more fragile MiG-21 (A-7Ds are prone to wingrip quite essily), go fast with hit and runs.

[Cpt. Obvious]

Originally posted by Solaire:

The A-7D does get its moments, and it can carry 2x AIM-9J which themselves are still good missiles at that BR. I guess the key is to play it like a more fragile MiG-21 (A-7Ds are prone to wingrip quite essily), go fast with hit and runs.

I Absolutely enjoy beating up ground Target's. The A-10 takes off faster, Sure the A7 get's there once it's upto speed, but carrying a full load of bombs with these rather disappointing 9E's just isn't working out. I got flares so the missle cancer isn't as bad. And The A-10 has a certified leave me alone area. You can top the leader board with Zero air kills just ground pounding with the 30mm Cannon. the 9L's just make really good insurance that people give you a wide birth or play it safely where the A7D has far less counter measure's. Much weaker missles. espically stock with the 9E's. And just to clarify a bit. CAS is cancer in ground RB. And there are far better choice's then the A7D or A10 to do it. Most of which are usually paid for things like the Tram. And I grinded all the way to the 105D Which is IMO A much more fun aircraft because it's fast and has enough load to pop two base's. missles are worthless. and no CM but that's not the point of this thread. The A7D seem's misplaced. I know once upon a time it was a super good aircraft but the time of air spawns and rear aspect missles are over. The time is now with 9L, R60M's and other all aspect missles flying around.

[Graephen]

Originally posted by SASMrSmall:

Just don't get hit, just dodge and just do not get destroyed, also just have ace games every match

Every Steam Discussions reply be like

[shipdesignerdude]

It's higher than the A-10 because it's much faster, which is a huge improvement over the A-10. It's still subsonic, but can reach decent Mach numbers. On top of that it gets a comparable payload.

[Cpt. Obvious]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

It's higher than the A-10 because it's much faster, which is a huge improvement over the A-10. It's still subsonic, but can reach decent Mach numbers. On top of that it gets a comparable payload.

Yes, Probably being that taking off from the runway you will be playing catch up with the A-10's till about the time you fly past your bomb objectives. But you're turning is ass, you missles aren't good. you have less CM. Just over all a worse plane, the only reason it's higher then the A-10 is because you get access to Pave ways which are useless in Air RB.

[Futuristic Hexagon]

Originally posted by Cpt.Obvious:

Originally posted by Solaire:

The A-7D does get its moments, and it can carry 2x AIM-9J which themselves are still good missiles at that BR. I guess the key is to play it like a more fragile MiG-21 (A-7Ds are prone to wingrip quite essily), go fast with hit and runs.

I Absolutely enjoy beating up ground Target's. The A-10 takes off faster, Sure the A7 get's there once it's upto speed, but carrying a full load of bombs with these rather disappointing 9E's just isn't working out. I got flares so the missle cancer isn't as bad. And The A-10 has a certified leave me alone area. You can top the leader board with Zero air kills just ground pounding with the 30mm Cannon. the 9L's just make really good insurance that people give you a wide birth or play it safely where the A7D has far less counter measure's. Much weaker missles. espically stock with the 9E's. And just to clarify a bit. CAS is cancer in ground RB. And there are far better choice's then the A7D or A10 to do it. Most of which are usually paid for things like the Tram. And I grinded all the way to the 105D Which is IMO A much more fun aircraft because it's fast and has enough load to pop two base's. missles are worthless. and no CM but that's not the point of this thread. The A7D seem's misplaced. I know once upon a time it was a super good aircraft but the time of air spawns and rear aspect missles are over. The time is now with 9L, R60M's and other all aspect missles flying around.

Yeah, putting all aspects below 10.3 was a recipe for disaster and it did cause all sorts of havoc in that BR bracket with adjustments causing more issues. Even if the primary carriers have subpar raw performance.

Regardless the 9Js should do do good once you get them. They pull a little harder than the 9Es and track much better.

Granted the 9G and 9L are, as you said, the king of IR AAMs at around that BR bracket until you get to stuff that can use the R-24T.

Wish you luck in spading it!

[paveclaw]

take the gun pods and go head ons as much as possible. don't be first to attack. I beleive you have aim9l which is still pretty good. I do feel your pain as a keep trying to be successful in a turd aircraft /shrug

[Cpt. Obvious]

Originally posted by paveclaw:

take the gun pods and go head ons as much as possible. don't be first to attack. I beleive you have aim9l which is still pretty good. I do feel your pain as a keep trying to be successful in a turd aircraft /shrug

I wish it had 9L's. You get 9J's at best. They are a step over the 9E's. I've got the 30mm pods. I need to double back and get the 20mm pods. And I've had mixed results with my bad aim. doesn't help the air frame doesn't like making little adjustments here and there and GOD FORBID if you try to turn you'll drop almost 200-400km/h instantly. Has the energy retention of a brick.

[biomike]

Originally posted by Solaire:

Originally posted by frick:

*plays attacker aircraft, meant for CAS*
"i don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about ground"
"why is it bad?"

Should still have a fair BR for when they are used in air battles no? I mean look at the Su-25s and A-10? They're cas aircraft and completely dominate air battles. Oh but those ones cost real money

The BR needs to be good for air and ground modes at the same time, cause "Our internal testing shows we dont need to split the BRs for the different modes"
Sadly we all got to deal with it

[aidenkahn2016]

There's some planes you don't crew that would be one of them stick with the a10 late if u wanna grind