Make the battle pass less of a grind

[DieuDuJambon]

for dear lord how do you expect everyone to play like 16h per day we have job and a life thank you

[Canadian Guitar]

引用自 Alider：

引用自 Illusionyary：

Battlepass is the furthest thing away from a grind. Do your daily missions + a special if you can, it'll take like 2 hours max with the special, much less without. The challenges take longer but you have like 2 weeks to do them and even if you do none of them you can still get to the top reward.

I would agree that it is not that hard to grind, but how do you do specials in 2 hours? That last special i had was to win 15 matches, which on average would take 30 games ~ 10-15 hours. Current one is to kill 25 heavy tanks which i also can't see completely in 2 hours even as an experience player(i myself is quite a noob so would probably take me a couple days of casual playing).

Specials don't have time limits.
Do your dailies in 1-2 hours, and buy your special. Then when you have more time to play, you can do any of the specials at your pace. You can have multiple ready to purchase.

[Mr. Jellybean]

引用自 cpt_nosh：

引用自 DieuDuJambon：

for dear lord how do you expect everyone to play like 16h per day we have job and a life thank you

inb4 "It'S aLl FrEe To PlAy" / "sKiLl IsSuE"

These threads usually bring up people saying "all you need to do is log in every day to complete the battle pass," then after being called out it became "all you need to do is log in, do a few daily tasks," followed by "log in, do all your dailies, and complete a few challenges." These people are all delusional. You'd have to spend 2-4+ hours playing a day, every day, while also completing all your dailies and most (if not all) of the challenges to complete the battle pass. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to convince themselves that they aren't wasting massive amounts of time and money on the game to feel better about their life choices lol. Try it yourself, logging in every days and doing most and dailies and a few challenges will only get you to level ~30-40.

[Sull]

引用自 Mr. Jellybean：

引用自 cpt_nosh：

inb4 "It'S aLl FrEe To PlAy" / "sKiLl IsSuE"

These threads usually bring up people saying "all you need to do is log in every day to complete the battle pass," then after being called out it became "all you need to do is log in, do a few daily tasks," followed by "log in, do all your dailies, and complete a few challenges." These people are all delusional. You'd have to spend 2-4+ hours playing a day, every day, while also completing all your dailies and most (if not all) of the challenges to complete the battle pass. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to convince themselves that they aren't wasting massive amounts of time and money on the game to feel better about their life choices lol. Try it yourself, logging in every days and doing most and dailies and a few challenges will only get you to level ~30-40.

By "complete" you must mean the full level 150(or 148 this bp for some reason)? Because getting to 51 for the free vehicle is really easy. , 75 for top one hasn't been a problem for me any bp either. But I guess this is more of the WT mentality of "Wuuah I want everything but I don't want to pay nor play"

[Akagi]

The problem I have with the battle pass is that if you want to get the next one for free you basically need to play daily and barely miss any daily tasks (unless you can compensate through special tasks) and that it's absolutely not beginner friendly considering there've been tasks that required you you to own (and perform) with maybe 1 of 5 toal vehicles that the met the requirements (that aren't exactly that fast to be researched)

[Graephen]

Yeah, it should be more achievable. Differentiate between events and BP

[Firsken]

Remember, if you pay them once, you get more after that forever.
I assume the more you pay them, the more you get as a f2p player.
(Before you think I'm lying, it's been tested)

[Canadian Guitar]

引用自 Schmorgus：

Remember, if you pay them once, you get more after that forever.
I assume the more you pay them, the more you get as a f2p player.
(Before you think I'm lying, it's been tested)

...
What?

[Boomerix]

"Just do 2 hours a day and when you have more time". People who are working, do Sports, have families etc. don't have 2 hours a day. 2 hours is the "more time".
Not everyone is a basement dweller that can sit in front of their PC for 6 hours straight every day.

The battle pass is for daily addicts, not for people who have a life. If you could plan ahead and maybe set a Sunday away for a longer gaming session then it would be fine, but the current format uses FOMO and urgency to get people to grind daily, which is simply not feasible for people who do things besides playing War Thunder.

Of course they could just sell the vehicles like they do with other Premiums, but then people wouldn't get the chance to pay money so they can work as lobby fillers and waiting time reducers.

[Canadian Guitar]

引用自 Boomerix：

"Just do 2 hours a day and when you have more time". People who are working, do Sports, have families etc. don't have 2 hours a day. 2 hours is the "more time".
Not everyone is a basement dweller that can sit in front of their PC for 6 hours straight every day.

The battle pass is for daily addicts, not for people who have a life. If you could plan ahead and maybe set a Sunday away for a longer gaming session then it would be fine, but the current format uses FOMO and urgency to get people to grind daily, which is simply not feasible for people who do things besides playing War Thunder.

Of course they could just sell the vehicles like they do with other Premiums, but then people wouldn't get the chance to pay money so they can work as lobby fillers and waiting time reducers.

In back to back sentences you went from 2 hours to 6 hours. Hyperbole much?

And you're correct, the battle pass IS for people who have extra time to dedicate to this game/hobby. That's why it isn't a requirement to play an otherwise free game.

And at the end of the battle pass season, the vehicles are for sale...

[mogami_99]

Logging on every day 27 levels Dailies 45 levels if you do the specials another 45 levels. You accidentally complete a few challenges. if you bought the 2500 GE pass you begin with 15 levels. Or you can buy the 15 levels for 1150 GE (If you have the free BP)
This is not grinding.

[Mr. Jellybean]

引用自 mogami_99：

Logging on every day 27 levels Dailies 45 levels if you do the specials another 45 levels. You accidentally complete a few challenges. if you bought the 2500 GE pass you begin with 15 levels. Or you can buy the 15 levels for 1150 GE (If you have the free BP)
This is not grinding.

Yes, and that ends up being >2 hours for experienced players and closer to 3-4+ hours for the average player. The reality is that the battle pass takes hundreds of hours to complete if you're not progressing with your wallet. Argue all you want, but this is the reality of the situation. Not many people will have 2+ hours to play EVERY DAY because have lives outside of work + War Thunder, a social life, hobbies, and responsibilities.

[mogami_99]

I did my dailies in less then an hour
Easy- destroy 1 base
Medium destroy 4 bases
My special was 15 bases. I did 8 yesterday in 5 missions (little more then an hour. I had already done my specials so I waited till this morning for the new ones got 2 bases which finish the easy and brought special to 10 Then 3 missions with 5 bases that finished both medium and special. Had 22 hours before new dailies so bought special "win 8 battles with +50 activity" I will finish that before tomorrow.
I am at level 50 in battle pass currently.
The fact I had almost 22 hours before new dailies tells just how fast they were done.

[mogami_99]

examples of daily and special that you can arrange to do the special while doing the daily.
Naval
easy-do 9k damage
medium-18k
special 50k by time you finish daily you have at least 27k of special
easy-sink 1 ship
medium -sink 10
special-sink 25 (by the time you finish the daily you have at least 11 of the special
Air
easy-1 base
medium 4 bases
special 15 bases

I don't really like any task that has "win" in the title but the ones that start "play a battle"
Be in top 5, top 3 top 2 are easy

[MissNurseXochi]

引用自 Mr. Jellybean：

引用自 cpt_nosh：

inb4 "It'S aLl FrEe To PlAy" / "sKiLl IsSuE"

These threads usually bring up people saying "all you need to do is log in every day to complete the battle pass," then after being called out it became "all you need to do is log in, do a few daily tasks," followed by "log in, do all your dailies, and complete a few challenges." These people are all delusional. You'd have to spend 2-4+ hours playing a day, every day, while also completing all your dailies and most (if not all) of the challenges to complete the battle pass. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to convince themselves that they aren't wasting massive amounts of time and money on the game to feel better about their life choices lol. Try it yourself, logging in every days and doing most and dailies and a few challenges will only get you to level ~30-40.

+100

I don't even play this game, but I know Gaijin is pretty ♥♥♥♥... not just Gaijin either but most game companies these days are all on the Pay To Win/Predatory Grinding Progression System and Battlepass ♥♥♥♥. If it weren't for all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ P2W mechanics and online only "Games as a Service" type of crap, perhaps I would of tried this game.

[DieuDuJambon]

引用自 Boomerix：

The first couple of Battlepasses didn't have time limits for the challenges and they were quite reasonable with several tasks that you could complete by just playing the game. That's when I even bought 2 of them. But now I just ignore it.

I can't and I won't pay 10 bucks to play the game 10 hours a day to grind the rewards, or dish out like 50 bucks to skip the grind.

I've been playing the game since it was in closed beta in 2012, I just stick to the occasional Premium time.

i would love to grab some cool tank from the bp but i dont always have the time to play i honestly suck cause i love the game but this kept me from not wanting to come back :/