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Celest Jan 23, 2023 @ 5:17am
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WMA301 8.7 is good br
i see a lot people in forum saying it should stay 8.3
it should not stay 8.3 it's very broken tank
and it's skill issue if you can't use tank that need no brain to use
and it's funny how Object 279 at 8.7 and only have range finder and good round
WMA301 at 8.3
Two-plane stabilizer
Laser rangefinder
Ammo
DTB-1 HE-VT* round
GP105 ATGM (tandem) 750mm of pen
Type-83 APFSDS 337mm of pen
+ 12.7 mm
Gen 2 gunner thermal
this thing face 7.7 and 7.3 tanks
and no amour best amour
Compare to 279 tank at 8.7
Two-plane stabilizer
Rangefinder
Night vision device
BR-482B 364mm of pen
14.5 mm
and this thing face 9.7 and 10.0 tanks
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Blitzkrieg Wulf  [developer] Jan 23, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by bee:
i see a lot people in forum saying it should stay 8.3
it should not stay 8.3 it's very broken tank
and it's skill issue if you can't use tank that need no brain to use

An argument could equally be made as follows:
(1) 7.3 (Or 7.7, or 8.0) tanks were never supposed to be as good as an 8.3 tank, or they would be 8.3 themselves.
(2) That the WMA has soggy tissue paper for armor, and that even planes with .30 caliber (much less .50...) machine guns can pose a serious threat to it.
(3) That ~16.5 horsepower per ton for 8.3 is average at best- you need a lot of room for the 301 to "stretch his legs".
and (4) that the only round worth using on that tank (APFSDS) is equivalent to what several other 8.0/8.3 tanks use ((Edit: I mean DM23..)DM33, M111, etc), and grossly underperforms what some 8.7 tanks have access to (Type 93, DM33, 3BM28).

Although I don't own one, IMHO it's not as good as the Rooi 105 at 8.7 who has DM33, which is better than Type 83 by a fair margin, Rooi also has 20hp/t.

Originally posted by bee:
Compare to 279 tank at 8.7
Two-plane stabilizer
Rangefinder
Night vision device
BR-482B 364mm of pen
14.5 mm

Are you really comparing APHE to APFSDS? A vehicle from a building event to a commonly available premium? HT to LT? etc? My WMA-Rooi comparison I openly admit is not 'perfect' by any stretch, but your comparison seems oddly specific for no clear reason.

Originally posted by bee:
Compare to 279 tank at 8.7
and this thing face 9.7 and 10.0 tanks

Probably not.

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If you want to start asking "How does it compare against things 1BR below it" and trying to equate it to 7.3's, you should also start asking how WMA will compare against things 1BR above it at 8.7 and comparing it to 9.7's.

Is it going to loose? Yeah, probably pretty horrifically, looking at even what 9.3 has to offer (That it already can/has to fight against).



** I don't have strong feelings on 8.3 vs 8.7, just trying to put food for thought...
Last edited by Blitzkrieg Wulf; Jan 23, 2023 @ 12:16pm
jr83 (Banned) Jan 23, 2023 @ 11:21am 
Definitely a deserved BR increase. I literally never see a WMA perform badly or have anything other than an "easy point and click adventure" game unless they are having actual connection issues, or are blatantly AFK.
Sir Llama Geddon Jan 23, 2023 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Mirage:
Gaijin just needs to understand lineups, they completely demolish lineups and making them unfeasible to play by balancing vehicles individually and not looking at the bigger picture, which is fine for planes but tanks it's a lineup game.
^ this exactly... if everything is 1.0 1.3 and 1.7 in ur lineup u cant have a solid 1.3 1.3 1.3 or 1.7 1.7 1.7 they like to ruin the BRs. Just because mostly people can't cope with something in ground which is easier than say air RB since it's singular planes mostly.
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Date Posted: Jan 23, 2023 @ 5:17am
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