F16 or Mig 29

[laojiong92]

Which one is more worth owning, f16 or MiG 29?

[[=LORD ULTRAMAR=]]

one have to say. One has been performing real well IRL but another one has been trashed in recent 'event' but somehow the game will make that 'one' better in game.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by laojiong92:

Which one is more worth owning, f16 or MiG 29?

Depends on what you're looking for in a jet. Im guessing you're talking air rb. If you're talking ground rb its a simple pick; F16.

The safest pick for air rb is probably the MiG-29. You cant go wrong with R27's and HMD. If you're looking for air superiority this is probably your best pick.

The US F16 is a great jet. Can carry up to 6 AIM-9L's and has the 20mm M61A1 vulcan. If the MiG-29 doesnt see a performance overhaul (which it most likely will) the F16 will dominate the MiG-29 in a rate fight. It has excellent energy retention due to the weight to thrust ratio.
The optimal pick for the F16 for air superiority will be the chinese version. Being able to carry fox one's is a pretty big deal. Its also a newer model with some slight improvements over the US version.

I'd say go for both if you have the opportunity. If not, I'd say go for the MiG-29 :) In the end, they are both incredible machines that can clear the skies.

[JuX]

Id say F-16, since it has multi-role capability for top tier ground battle.

If your looking for dog fighting capabilities, then F-16. But wouldn't be surprised if Gaijin made Mig-29 the better turn fighter, when it shouldn't be.

[SentryNXT]

F16 but it's russian game so go mig29

[ODINMASTER]

Originally posted by AHEGAO BOI:

one have to say. One has been performing real well IRL but another one has been trashed in recent 'event' but somehow the game will make that 'one' better in game.

war thunder players trying not to get political challenge, impossible

[Feli]

f-16 is speed and manovriality

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by SentryNXT:

F16 but it's russian game so go mig29

People really be pretending the F-14 never existed.

[Jaes]

They're both going to be great aircraft. MiG-29 is going to be more specialized towards an air-to-air role while F-16 is a typical American Multi-role fighter.

MiG-29 will have access to R-27s so it will have a bit of an edge in medium range engagements while the F-16s will only have access to AIM-9Ls (unless you're getting the Chinese F-16, which will have 2x AIM-7Fs).

F-16s hold a slight edge in rate fights, but not to a degree where it outclasses the MiG-29. A mistake by an F-16 will lead to a victory with a MiG-29. MiG-29 also has an edge in vertical maneuvers thanks to its two powerful engines.

Overall, it's going to be a matter of personal preference. There's really no wrong answer here, but both are going to shake up the meta a bit.

[ThomasNorge224]

If the mig was realistic, something gaijin cares about, then they would make the player have to research a GPS to access the map when flying. And probably make it perform less good. If there is something we know about the russians, its that they rarely perform as good as they say. but since its a game, and gaijin is gaijin, the mig probably wont be that bad. maybe even better.

[Futuristic Hexagon]

I remember seeing recently they have the wrong (later) seeker head for the R-27T, thus making it have built in IRCCMs...

Do understand that Gaijin recognizes it as a bug and it's supposed to have behavior closer to the 1980s R-27Ts (TGS-27 seeker head.) I haven't been keeping much track of the new stuff lately, but have they finally fixed that in the dev server, or is that going to be something they "forget" to fix until like 2 weeks after the live patch drops?

[Schublade]

The problem is in this game the G-force and blackout system may vere well prevent that the F-16's advantages will be realized. Blackout does not happen because g-forces are built up to fast almost instantly all the time in war thunder. Blackout happens because of stamina stats.

So because there is no consequences to over-g for certain planes like MIG-21, MiG-23 and most likely MIG29 one real advantage of F-16 FBW that it adheres the control surfaces to a 9G-limit, therefore protecting airplane and pilot, is a moot point in this game.

That the F-16 should be able to sustain higher g-forces because of the inclined seat and aerodynamics is therefore also a moot point.

And that the visibilty is better is also moot in air rb because only VR people limit themselves freely. Everybody else has maximum visibility beyond the cockpit limitations and g-forces because what you really don't do is move your neck around at 9 G neither does he have to because of 3rd person viewpoint. Track-IR people get always the fullscreen panorama looking back. So the real advantages of the F-16 design will only be felt if at all in SIM mode. Everybody else is in 3rd person view anyway.

[florble mcfumperdink]

Originally posted by ODINMASTER:

Originally posted by AHEGAO BOI:

one have to say. One has been performing real well IRL but another one has been trashed in recent 'event' but somehow the game will make that 'one' better in game.

war thunder players trying not to get political challenge, impossible

In all honesty the Fulcrum has come out of that conflict pretty well so far since the UAF has been using them to good effect against the Russian military.

[shipdesignerdude]

Originally posted by AHEGAO BOI:

one have to say. One has been performing real well IRL but another one has been trashed in recent 'event' but somehow the game will make that 'one' better in game.

You would be correct if your comment wasn't so incredibly out of context. Not saying anything else about it.

[florble mcfumperdink]

Considering the general ground strike capabilities, the F-16 is a better all-rounder and multirole plane. If you are solely focusing on A2A capabilities, then there is not much of a difference between the two planes tbh, it is just if you want a 1 circle fighter or a 2 circle fighter.

Edit: However, the F-16 will probably have the overall edge due to its improved rate fighting abilities, and future variants will have sparrows and possibly AMRAAMS. It is possible that the current US F-16A will get Sparrows since it is either a Block 15 OCU or ADF, but the devs have said the the US tree will get a second F-16 (most likely a Block 20) with improved Sparrows, improved Sidewinders, and potentially AMRAAMS.

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by florble mcfumperdink:

Considering the general ground strike capabilities, the F-16 is a better all-rounder and multirole plane. If you are solely focusing on A2A capabilities, then there is not much of a difference between the two planes tbh, it is just if you want a 1 circle fighter or a 2 circle fighter.

the mig-29 would have an advantage in medium range since it gets radar missiles.