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Grant Dec 23, 2022 @ 2:38pm
Getting Tired of Soviet WW2 Bias Against HEATFS
So, according to Gaijan, the Russia should have just sent T-34s and KV-1s to Ukraine. They are extremely resist to HEATFS for some dumb reasons. The HEATFS will pen the tanks (because Gaijan won't be able to explain that away), but the shells' post pen damages are nerf against Soviet tanks. I can one shot Tigers, Panthers, Churchills, Shermans, and etc with the Ikv 103 105mm HEATFS. However, I usually have to waste 2-4 shots on the Soviet tanks, because the blast damage is reduce.
Last edited by Grant; Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:26pm
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Tom Dec 23, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
Hit their ammo, postpen on HEAT FS goes in a straight line and doesn't spall
Toblm Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:14pm 
HEAT(FS or not) is inconsistent. Its inconsistent against all nations. It isnt a russian bias thing.
Swag Messiah Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Tom:
Hit their ammo, postpen on HEAT FS goes in a straight line and doesn't spall

I can't tell you how many times I've bounced CHEAT-FS off an IS series tank. Nevermind the amount of times a BMP has miraculously survived an impact directly to the center of it's hull. Or how many times I've hit a tank and had it's fuel tank absorb literally 400mm of impact. Something smells funny. Like borscht.
Grant Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Venom Thanos:
For some reason the HEATFS always worked on T-54 and T-55s, even the weak one with 320mm pen always one shot them if you shoot them at the ammo rack area. Awkward moment when your 6.7 RU-251 killed two 7.7 T-54s and one 8.0 T-55A lol
Yeah, that is why I joke about the T-34 and KV-1 being send to Ukraine, because HEATFS does work against the Cold War. It just goes to show the wonky model of the T-34 and especially the KV-1. Ever since volume update, KV-1 armor is extremely trolling and it will actually bounce more shots than IS-2s.
Tom Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Quirked Up White Boy Goated With:
Originally posted by Tom:
Hit their ammo, postpen on HEAT FS goes in a straight line and doesn't spall

I can't tell you how many times I've bounced CHEAT-FS off an IS series tank. Nevermind the amount of times a BMP has miraculously survived an impact directly to the center of it's hull. Or how many times I've hit a tank and had it's fuel tank absorb literally 400mm of impact. Something smells funny. Like borscht.
and i can tell you the amounts of times a leopard or an M48 ate my rounds for no reason while using the AML90, it happens with everything
xCrossFaith Dec 23, 2022 @ 4:13pm 
The only country biased innWWII era is Germany tho
Ddinosaur Dec 23, 2022 @ 7:06pm 
IKV-103

Cringe, no sympathy
JoeShmoe Dec 23, 2022 @ 10:01pm 
Forget the KV/T34's, just send a single squad of ISU/SU's and watch them take zero damage pen after pen after... pen. One squad to rule them all.
TaTaTiRa Dec 24, 2022 @ 4:49am 
I was amazed just now how weak ussr is. I had mine Is2 1944 max upgraded destroyed by one shot from tiger h1 from across the map. I am definitely unnistalling this tank "simulation".
Jerroser Dec 24, 2022 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by TaTaTiRa:
I was amazed just now how weak ussr is. I had mine Is2 1944 max upgraded destroyed by one shot from tiger h1 from across the map. I am definitely unnistalling this tank "simulation".
IS tanks can be incredibly odd sometime regarding where you can and can't take a hit. Its armour is mostly good frontally but it has a sweet spot right in the centre through which most tanks of that BR can one shot you. Where to avoid this you need to angel the tank a bit so they aren't able to get a flat shot, but in doing so you risk making the thinner curves either side much easier targets to also one shot you through.
Grant Dec 24, 2022 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Venom Thanos:
Originally posted by Jerroser:
IS tanks can be incredibly odd sometime regarding where you can and can't take a hit. Its armour is mostly good frontally but it has a sweet spot right in the centre through which most tanks of that BR can one shot you. Where to avoid this you need to angel the tank a bit so they aren't able to get a flat shot, but in doing so you risk making the thinner curves either side much easier targets to also one shot you through.
I have more problem with IS reload time than anything else, even when aced you get 20 seconds reload, it is too-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-long. And you get 7.7 IS-4M and it has the same problem, when your loader is injured, it will take one hour to reload, that's why most IS-4M always a sitting bullet sponge that almost never shoot. That's the main problem with Soviet tanks, the reload is way too SLOW that's what make most of them sucks.
Well, it is because of the 122mm. It suffered historically from the bad reload, but it is also balance. It will always one shot the enemy if you didn't go for engine shots.
RedWolfofDeath Dec 24, 2022 @ 1:30pm 
The should've made a way to block which nations you face against. But then it be Russian mains against each other in a civil war. Although that would greatly enhance the game and make it fun again, they won't because then nobody would buy their premiums for other countries for a greater chance of killing Russian bias OP tanks/planes.
shipdesignerdude Dec 24, 2022 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by RedWolfofDeath:
The should've made a way to block which nations you face against. But then it be Russian mains against each other in a civil war. Although that would greatly enhance the game and make it fun again, they won't because then nobody would buy their premiums for other countries for a greater chance of killing Russian bias OP tanks/planes.
No, that is plain idiocy. The majority of people like yourself would ban x nation, thus destroying the matchmaker. Russia is good partly because it's players are much better than say Germany or US, who both are notorious for having braindead players at specific tiers.
FireFromBehind (Banned) Dec 24, 2022 @ 1:40pm 
Nice troll
Grant Dec 24, 2022 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:
Originally posted by RedWolfofDeath:
The should've made a way to block which nations you face against. But then it be Russian mains against each other in a civil war. Although that would greatly enhance the game and make it fun again, they won't because then nobody would buy their premiums for other countries for a greater chance of killing Russian bias OP tanks/planes.
No, that is plain idiocy. The majority of people like yourself would ban x nation, thus destroying the matchmaker. Russia is good partly because it's players are much better than say Germany or US, who both are notorious for having braindead players at specific tiers.
Dude, Soviet players are the worst. All they do is literally rush head into the enemies, but Gaijan buffing their armor allows them to do so.
Despite years of complaint, Gaijan still have not fix the T-34 driver hatch blackhole. Also, the Soviet shells have insane angle pen when in reality their shell suffered from poor quality control. In almost everything, Gaijan decided not to apply the historical issues the Soviet tanks suffered from such as lower quality steel to bad optics.
Heck, look at higher tier air, Soviets literally get missiles and other systems from the mid-1980s to face US jets armed only with mid-1970 missiles.
Gaijan even add in the R-27ER (1990) to counter the US AIM-7M (1982), when the US already produced the AIM-7P in 1987. The current MiG-29 model in-game couldn't even use the missile. The MiG-29 needed updates to its radar to fire it BVR and body modification to enable it to carry the R-27ER in the first place.
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