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Ragnarok Apr 16, 2019 @ 12:03pm
Japanese fighters(A7M2, N1k1, N1k2 J, N1k2-ja, J2M3))
How do these perform their roles? After having fought a ♥♥♥ plane as German, I think im d one playing german planes and going to Japan. Ive determined that turn fighting is better than Boom and Zoom in every manner.

So, how do these planes perform in their roles?

What about the brits and their tempests/spitfires?

Looking for a fighter plane that also has the option to hit with a rocket and/or bomb for ground targets in Ground RB.

The planes in the title are the Japanes planes im looking at due to their BR/Loadouts.
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Rei [Pwner] Apr 19, 2019 @ 12:38am 
A7M2 is the epitome of Japan's Turn Fighter doctrine, if I may say. It combines the maneuverability of its immediate predecessor, the A6M, and adds with it the insane speed that can match US aircraft.

The N1K-J series is a bit of a sore spot, if I may say.... the N1K2-Js specifically have their maneuverability reduced to match their historical counterparts..... Your better off using the Ki-84s than the N1K-Js for the turn fighting aspect, if I may say...

The J2M line is purely a BnZ line, specifically designed to be used as bomber interceptors that can get to high altitude as fast as possible... Turning with them is not an option.

Overall, the main turn fighters in the Japanese tree are:
-A5M4 (Including Hagiri's)
-A6M series
-A7M series
-Ki-43 series
-Ki-27

Energy Fighters:
-Ki-61 series
-Ki-100 series
-Ki-84 series
-N1K series

Boom and Zoom Fighters:
-J7W1
-J2M series
-Ki-44 series

This is all based on personal opinion... Do not take this for granted.... Make sure to make judgments for yourself so that you could compare with others


In addition, you're going to find Japanese planes in general to be lacking in the Ground Attack scenario... Most fighters, specifically the Army line, can carry a maximum of two 250kg bombs total... Some fighters, specifically starting from the A7M2 and beyond, barring the J2M5 and the J7W1, in the Navy line can carry "rocket" bombs under their wing in two pylons total. Overall, in the Ground Attack aspect, you would require to use Japan's Carrier Strike aircraft to bring bigger bombs into the field
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Ragnarok Apr 19, 2019 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by Oraye Pwner:
A7M2 is the epitome of Japan's Turn Fighter doctrine, if I may say. It combines the maneuverability of its immediate predecessor, the A6M, and adds with it the insane speed that can match US aircraft.

The N1K-J series is a bit of a sore spot, if I may say.... the N1K2-Js specifically have their maneuverability reduced to match their historical counterparts..... Your better off using the Ki-84s than the N1K-Js for the turn fighting aspect, if I may say...

The J2M line is purely a BnZ line, specifically designed to be used as bomber interceptors that can get to high altitude as fast as possible... Turning with them is not an option.

Overall, the main turn fighters in the Japanese tree are:
-A5M4 (Including Hagiri's)
-A6M series
-A7M series
-Ki-43 series
-Ki-27

Energy Fighters:
-Ki-61 series
-Ki-100 series
-Ki-84 series
-N1K series

Boom and Zoom Fighters:
-J7W1
-J2M series
-Ki-44 series

This is all based on personal opinion... Do not take this for granted.... Make sure to make judgments for yourself so that you could compare with others


In addition, you're going to find Japanese planes in general to be lacking in the Ground Attack scenario... Most fighters, specifically the Army line, can carry a maximum of two 250kg bombs total... Some fighters, specifically starting from the A7M2 and beyond, barring the J2M5 and the J7W1, in the Navy line can carry "rocket" bombs under their wing in two pylons total. Overall, in the Ground Attack aspect, you would require to use Japan's Carrier Strike aircraft to bring bigger bombs into the field

carrier strike aircraft? What aircraft are those?

Im looking into the rockets myself.

Btw, much appreciated with the info.

The rockets are the big reason why im choosing Japan and the specific airplanesi ve mentioned.
Rei [Pwner] Apr 19, 2019 @ 12:57am 
The Carrier Strike Aircrafts that I was mentioning are the D3A1, D4Y series, B5N2, and B7A2. These planes are not on par with other strike aircraft in payload and survivability options,but they are good substitute fighters to tango in with their maneuverability.
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Illusionyary Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:01am 
Late tier Japanese aircraft are massively overtiered (N1Ks, J2Ms, Ki-61s, Ki-84s), especially compared to German aircraft. For example Germany's top props stop at 5.7, and these have far better performance than Japan's 6.3 N1K2s.

I'd honestly avoid them.
Ragnarok Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Illusionyary:
Late tier Japanese aircraft are massively overtiered (N1Ks, J2Ms, Ki-61s, Ki-84s), especially compared to German aircraft. For example Germany's top props stop at 5.7, and these have far better performance than Japan's 6.3 N1K2s.

I'd honestly avoid them.


Originally posted by Oraye Pwner:
The Carrier Strike Aircrafts that I was mentioning are the D3A1, D4Y series, B5N2, and B7A2. These planes are not on par with other strike aircraft in payload and survivability options,but they are good substitute fighters to tango in with their maneuverability.

This is all for ground forces realistic, so keep that in mind :)
Illusionyary Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:07am 
Originally posted by Barneys Had Enough Of You.:
This is all for ground forces realistic, so keep that in mind :)
Then you're better off sticking with Germany.

Germany has better ground attackers, better bombers, and better ordinance for its fighters.
Rei [Pwner] Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:08am 
Ordinance =/= Ordnance
Ragnarok Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by Illusionyary:
Originally posted by Barneys Had Enough Of You.:
This is all for ground forces realistic, so keep that in mind :)
Then you're better off sticking with Germany.

Germany has better ground attackers, better bombers, and better ordinance for its fighters.

Oh im not, but right now, im trying to find a new nation to play. I dont care for American tanks, so thats out of the question. French tanks right now are just horrible to play((The repair cost)). So that leaves Italy and Japan. Well, Italy is a no go for me. Not interested so that leaves Japan.

Well, Japan tanks DO interest me very much. Type 75 MLRS is one of them and I got a custom sight for it.

now, I do have british, but british are more bombs and I like rockets and I like the big boy rockets. Tiny tims etc.

Well, Brits dont have tiny tims except on their lend lease hellcat, which aren't very good tiny tims due to where its located.

Anyways, long story short.

Japan interests me and the specific rockets I mentioned ARE on the japan fighters.
Rei [Pwner] Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:12am 
Those "rockets" that you keep on mentioning can be found specifically for the following aircraft:
-A7M2
-J2M3
-N1K1-J
-N1K2-J/Ja

Which are under the Tier III-IV bracket, a bit high up in the Japanese Aircraft Tree

To be honest, it is not worth the effort to get these "rockets" since you only have two drops max.... although a direct hit from the Type 5 No.6 Mod.9 84 kg rocket is enough to OHK a Maus in a direct hit... but that was a long time ago that I tested it
Kay Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by Oraye Pwner:
Ordinance =/= Ordnance

Well, the planes do authoritatively order other planes to fireball if they turnfight with them
Ragnarok Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by Oraye Pwner:
Those "rockets" that you keep on mentioning can be found specifically for the following aircraft:
-A7M2
-J2M3
-N1K1-J
-N1K2-J/Ja

Which are under the Tier III-IV bracket, a bit high up in the Japanese Aircraft Tree

To be honest, it is not worth the effort to get these "rockets" since you only have two drops max.... although a direct hit from the Type 5 No.6 Mod.9 84 kg rocket is enough to OHK a Maus in a direct hit... but that was a long time ago that I tested it

Well, the plan is to get them any way just for the rockets for fun. Im golden eagling up the line for tanks and planes so its why I was asking.
Kay Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Oraye Pwner:
Those "rockets" that you keep on mentioning can be found specifically for the following aircraft:
-A7M2
-J2M3
-N1K1-J
-N1K2-J/Ja

Which are under the Tier III-IV bracket, a bit high up in the Japanese Aircraft Tree

To be honest, it is not worth the effort to get these "rockets" since you only have two drops max.... although a direct hit from the Type 5 No.6 Mod.9 84 kg rocket is enough to OHK a Maus in a direct hit... but that was a long time ago that I tested it

Pretty sure it won't work now unless you land it on the roof of the Maus, or hit the engine deck (set it on fire) since the armour all around it is thick enough to take a direct hit from most HE rockets, but the roof may be thin enough
Kay Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:17am 
The rockets are fun, though I'd stick with the A7, it's a great plane and if you can land rockets, it's able to destroy two tanks, then you can swap to dealing with enemy CAS
Ragnarok Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by Ki'agh:
The rockets are fun, though I'd stick with the A7, it's a great plane and if you can land rockets, it's able to destroy two tanks, then you can swap to dealing with enemy CAS

That is the plan, but I wanted a total of two CAS planes so I have a back up for the plane. xD

Which is why I was curious about the four planes. Would the J2 or the N1 be better? Which n1?
Rei [Pwner] Apr 19, 2019 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

Well, the plan is to get them any way just for the rockets for fun. Im golden eagling up the line for tanks and planes so its why I was asking.

Hm... I would still suggest you to play the planes/ tanks so as to get a feel for them in a real match.


Originally posted by Ki'agh:

Pretty sure it won't work now unless you land it on the roof of the Maus, or hit the engine deck (set it on fire) since the armour all around it is thick enough to take a direct hit from most HE rockets, but the roof may be thin enough

As for that, That I should test again to see if they change it... they might have, I think? Thanks for the heads up
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