Tu 4 Needs Balance

[pepe]

I have played over 30 real battles and the Tu 4 is destructive to gameplay. There was one match I was in that the Tu 4 shot down 3 sabres and then me at low altitude. People know it has armor center and still try to attack wings, however, 4x20mm rounds still arent good enough. This plane cannot exist in prop or jets in the current state. The only other solution I could see is a buff to the allied guns in general so that it is able enough to take down the Tu 4.

Or bring the B-29 up to par with the Tu-4 so America has an equal chance at victory.

[kiro the avenger!]

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except nothing but the B52 would even leave a dent then

Then don't add the B52.

then no need to increase the base hp

[kiro the avenger!]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από kiro the avenger!:

then no need to increase the base hp

Agreed, base HP doesn't need increased it needs removed.

well bases are the only things giving strategic bombers something to do
although i would rather they just never added those bombers in the first place, theyre here to stay now

[BeansAndRice]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από JumboShrimpTaco:

Then don't add the B52.

then no need to increase the base hp

Actually, there is a need. It stops bomber rushes for good, without nerfing bombers.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από kiro the avenger!:

then no need to increase the base hp

Agreed, base HP doesn't need increased it needs removed.

That would be game-breaking.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από kiro the avenger!:

well bases are the only things giving strategic bombers something to do
although i would rather they just never added those bombers in the first place, theyre here to stay now

Exactly. Gaijin really need to re-think their implementation of player bombers, even if it's just for Wings of Prey 2: Prey Harder.

Well, a hefty amount of people probably wanted B-29s to be added. But of course, some did not. I guess you can't satisfy everyone. The bombers don't need to be removed, they just need to rework their game. There is room for huge bombers.

[Foxtrot39]

There is issue for competitivity

Best example is EC at BR 6.7 range

German best bomber / only allowed bomber 1.5T

Anyone else ~10T

Now how are you suposed to deal against this?

Hunting bomber down does NOT help since they fly in clouds and mostly are spotted via AAA fire from your airfield

Then try to kill a Tu-4 in SIM, at least the B29 had mediocre defence compensating for his ridiculous bombload

Tu-4 is faster, more resillient, carry a extra ton and carries more gun and ammo than a stormtrooper squad would need to hit a barn at 12m

[| BusteR |]

b 52 if they start adding more modern jets like f-104 and so on

[BeansAndRice]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Foxtrot39:

There is issue for competitivity

Best example is EC at BR 6.7 range

German best bomber / only allowed bomber 1.5T

Anyone else ~10T

Now how are you suposed to deal against this?

Hunting bomber down does NOT help since they fly in clouds and mostly are spotted via AAA fire from your airfield

Then try to kill a Tu-4 in SIM, at least the B29 had mediocre defence compensating for his ridiculous bombload

Tu-4 is faster, more resillient, carry a extra ton and carries more gun and ammo than a stormtrooper squad would need to hit a barn at 12m

Give Germans really big OP bomber, buff B-29. As for the Tu-4 - if you engage it from a really steep angle, it will die. There have been games where no Tu-4 has been allowed to bomb because one Me-262 with a 50mm gun keeps shooting everyone down. You could also shoot a wing - if you have ever flown the Tu-4 or B-29, you would know that they lose control very easily if one wing is even minorly damaged. As for clouds...... Gaijin's fault.

[Foxtrot39]

Because that 50mm is designed to down bomber, not all plane at that BR has a 50mm

B29 doesn't need a direct buff, un nerf the .50 cal to begin with, all plane got a overall buff as they all got more resilient and gun mostly are dealing less damage

Germany do not have a big OP bomber Ta 400 or other long range bomber prot were decently armed but it only carry 4T at best, and most document and proto were destroyed

The best thing they can add is the Ju 287 V3, a 6 engine jet bomber, tail 20mm, turret twin 13mm, 4T payload and a max speed of 1000kmh

[9000walruses]

Add air to air missiles.

[Foxtrot39]

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Add air to air missiles.

Strict no to fire and forget gaijin said

[🍺☠︎ssg.nattyice🖕🚀]

They could add wire guided surface to ground or SAM sites and add counter measures.

[jakanddan]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από kiro the avenger!:

there is currently nothing in this game that flys in the stratosphere, packing a minigun, and enough payload to almost level warthunder solo at nearly Mac 1

Why would you put a minigun on an interceptor? 7.62 is mostly ineffective vs. mach-speed planes.

Nice catch, cuz minigun is chambered in 7.62, the rest are rotary cannons :P

[BeansAndRice]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Foxtrot39:

Because that 50mm is designed to down bomber, not all plane at that BR has a 50mm

B29 doesn't need a direct buff, un nerf the .50 cal to begin with, all plane got a overall buff as they all got more resilient and gun mostly are dealing less damage

Germany do not have a big OP bomber Ta 400 or other long range bomber prot were decently armed but it only carry 4T at best, and most document and proto were destroyed

The best thing they can add is the Ju 287 V3, a 6 engine jet bomber, tail 20mm, turret twin 13mm, 4T payload and a max speed of 1000kmh

Yes. Not all planes are fit to bring down big bombers.

That's what I mean by buff - unnerf. Unnerf=buff. Unbuff=nerf.

Who cares if the Ta-400 didn't carry 4T? Gaijin could just use their magic to make it carry 10T like the B-29 and Tu-4. And who cares if it's a proto? The Maus was a proto too.

[Foxtrot39]

Me 262 HG II "Due to lack of surviving documents its very unlikely it will be in game" -Gaijin

That jet was planned since years

[BeansAndRice]

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Me 262 HG II "Due to lack of surviving documents its very unlikely it will be in game" -Gaijin

That jet was planned since years

Alright, fine. If that is going to get in your way, then don't balance the game. Ever.

[jakanddan]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Foxtrot39:

Me 262 HG II "Due to lack of surviving documents its very unlikely it will be in game" -Gaijin

That jet was planned since years

OMG use the relpy button, its there for a reason, so much easier to follow the conversation