why is M6A1 a heavy tank?

[Commander Shepard]

The only heavy tank attribute it has is its weight.

The mobility is awful and the armor effectiveness is the same, if not worse than a M4.

[gromchack]

I have heared somewhere, that the allies have classified the tanks by weight. The Germans by the caliber of the gun (which is the reason why a Panther is a medium tank, beside his huge size and weight)

[cat]

ask the sad maus ;(

[Mods]

Because, IRL it was classed as a heavy by the US Armored forces, it should not be in game as its by all rights a garbage tank and is one of the ones that aught to be removed next patch for it simply not being competitive

[Illusionyary]

Because the US classed it as such, keep in mind US tanks had to be kept relatively light in order to be shipped to Europe.

[Mods]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Because the US classed it as such, keep in mind US tanks had to be kept relatively light in order to be shipped to Europe.

also this, US Equipment tl;dr had to be transported by sea, and needed to be able to be upgraded and serviced in the field. hence why the Sherman was what it was.

[Damian030303]

I'd actually choose M6 over Jumbo.

[Mods]

Originally posted by Damian030303:

I'd actually choose M6 over Jumbo.

>worse turret
>worse mobility
>larger
>worse armor
the M6 has a decent gun, thats it.

[Damian030303]

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

Originally posted by Damian030303:

I'd actually choose M6 over Jumbo.

>worse turret
>worse mobility
>larger
>worse armor
the M6 has a decent gun, thats it.

Way better cannon, additional cannon, more crew, trollish armor.
Also I just dislike Jumbo.
I love yeeting it out of existance tho.

[Mods]

Originally posted by Damian030303:

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

>worse turret
>worse mobility
>larger
>worse armor
the M6 has a decent gun, thats it.

Way better cannon, additional cannon, more crew, trollish armor.
Also I just dislike Jumbo.
I love yeeting it out of existance tho.

Additional canon decreases effectiveness of multiple shots due to all the smoke it kicks up, and is responsible for the gunsight being incorrectly positioned for use with the 76, meaning close range shooting is a no, armor is flat on the M6 and very very easy to get through, to the point that the largest threats in the M6 are the Pz IV F2s and up, You also still have, atleast as far as i remember, 5 Crew, Driver/BOG/Gunner/Commander/Loader, and even then its a very tight in turret already, so a 6th crewman would still be killed just as easily


tl;dr gets oneshotted by everything, trash tank lmao.

[Damian030303]

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

Originally posted by Damian030303:

Way better cannon, additional cannon, more crew, trollish armor.
Also I just dislike Jumbo.
I love yeeting it out of existance tho.

Additional canon decreases effectiveness of multiple shots due to all the smoke it kicks up, and is responsible for the gunsight being incorrectly positioned for use with the 76, meaning close range shooting is a no, armor is flat on the M6 and very very easy to get through, to the point that the largest threats in the M6 are the Pz IV F2s and up, You also still have, atleast as far as i remember, 5 Crew, Driver/BOG/Gunner/Commander/Loader, and even then its a very tight in turret already, so a 6th crewman would still be killed just as easily


tl;dr gets oneshotted by everything, trash tank lmao.

You don't have to use samller cannon if you don't want but it's useful against light enemies.
More crew is useful, even if they're tight together.

I could say that Jumbo is trash too.
It's just mine or your poinion, not objecive fact.

[Mods]

Originally posted by Major Blank:

sounds like a learn to play problem

>Cant angle because flat angled flat spots
>100mms of non-angleable at a BR where >120mm pen guns are common
>bad optics location leading to odd shooting with the 76mm, in CQB you will have to adjust your aim quite alot to put the 76 on target
>small densely packed turret, easy to kill all 3(?) turret crew
>terrible mobility, bad forward and reverse speed, dont even think about trying to traverse the hull


>but no everything wrong with this tank is a L2P play issue lmao

[Mods]

Originally posted by Damian030303:

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

Additional canon decreases effectiveness of multiple shots due to all the smoke it kicks up, and is responsible for the gunsight being incorrectly positioned for use with the 76, meaning close range shooting is a no, armor is flat on the M6 and very very easy to get through, to the point that the largest threats in the M6 are the Pz IV F2s and up, You also still have, atleast as far as i remember, 5 Crew, Driver/BOG/Gunner/Commander/Loader, and even then its a very tight in turret already, so a 6th crewman would still be killed just as easily


tl;dr gets oneshotted by everything, trash tank lmao.

You don't have to use samller cannon if you don't want but it's useful against light enemies.
More crew is useful, even if they're tight together.

I could say that Jumbo is trash too.
It's just mine or your poinion, not objecive fact.

the 75 is objectively trash because the 75 was retained for infantry support, and most Jumbos were retrofitted with the 76mm, But atleast in game the M4A3E2 (75) has actual armor and a much better turret, Mobility, ammo layout, than the M6. For the jumbo in general, the 76 Jumbo is absolutely amazing at 6.0, and 6.0 only, 6.3+ is pure pain.

[Damian030303]

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

Originally posted by Damian030303:

You don't have to use samller cannon if you don't want but it's useful against light enemies.
More crew is useful, even if they're tight together.

I could say that Jumbo is trash too.
It's just mine or your poinion, not objecive fact.

the 75 is objectively trash because the 75 was retained for infantry support, and most Jumbos were retrofitted with the 76mm, But atleast in game the M4A3E2 (75) has actual armor and a much better turret, Mobility, ammo layout, than the M6. For the jumbo in general, the 76 Jumbo is absolutely amazing at 6.0, and 6.0 only, 6.3+ is pure pain.

[Yeets Jumbo out of existance by shooting the 38.1mm plate with ammo right behind it while its angling]

[Mods]

Originally posted by Damian030303:

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

the 75 is objectively trash because the 75 was retained for infantry support, and most Jumbos were retrofitted with the 76mm, But atleast in game the M4A3E2 (75) has actual armor and a much better turret, Mobility, ammo layout, than the M6. For the jumbo in general, the 76 Jumbo is absolutely amazing at 6.0, and 6.0 only, 6.3+ is pure pain.

[Yeets Jumbo out of existance by shooting the 38.1mm plate with ammo right behind it while its angling]

who angles a jumbo lmao.
>yeets Tiger II through MG Port

[Damian030303]

Originally posted by Mods_o_joy:

Originally posted by Damian030303:

[Yeets Jumbo out of existance by shooting the 38.1mm plate with ammo right behind it while its angling]

who angles a jumbo lmao.

Suprisingly many people angle it.