Incoming Leo 2A5 and Abrams M1A2 nerf

[Sil.^Fisk]

Leopard 2A5 / Strv 122 - thermal vision preset has been changed from Gen. 2 to Gen. 1.Source: 12 cm kanon strv 121/122. Skjuttabeller. // PRZEGLĄD SIŁ ZBROJNYCH nr 6/ 2014 // Vehicle Optronics, HENSOLDT brochure //

According to the DEV server the Leo 2A5 from 1995 has equal thermal sights to an XM1 prototype from the 1970s.

Makes no sense to me, but what are your opinions on this incoming nerf?

If you try or seen someone try it on the DEV server the Thermal imaging is horrendous now.

[Nemull]

balance is balance, not only when you get benefits like what happened with the kpz

[Kozi]

From reading that source I can’t find a single mention about what generation of thermals the Strv 122 is using, but I might just be blind.

https://www.mycity-military.com/Kopnena-vojska-i-naoruzanje/12cm-kanon-STRV-121-122-Skjuttabeller.html

[Sil.^Fisk]

In any Case they are also changing the Abrams to Gen 1 thermal sights. Seems like a nerf to NATO tanks in general.

Heres the thread if anyone is interested:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/486799-dev-major-update-198-dev-server-changelog-discussion/

[ivercon]

They do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. Every patch nerf something NATO across the board and buff something Soviet across the board. Watch them add a better apfsds for all russian tanks 9.3+

[Doctor Eggman]

Can we just get Starstreak missiles fixed? idgaf about this lol. Britain main reeeee.

Also nerf the Ka-50 and Ka-52.

[ivercon]

引用自 Alien Alien：

Can we just get Starstreak missiles fixed? idgaf about this lol. Britain main reeeee.

Also nerf the Ka-50 and Ka-52.

Oh they will nerf them. Already got their money from those fools.

[Doctor Eggman]

引用自 =KGrWF=Radio_Demon：

引用自 Alien Alien：

Also nerf the Ka-50 and Ka-52.

You say nerf them but you don't specify how to do that which doesn't really help. Tbh the Kamovs were nerfed. I tested the Vikhrs and they didn't hit the enemy target at the range of 9900m, at altitude of 700m.

Remove the Vikhrs and replace with ATAKA's (Ka-50) and just remove the Vikhrs for the Ka-52, problem solved.

I own the Ka-50 myself and I'd be 100% A-OK with the change, so long as it makes the quality of life of other players better, the Kamovs already do every other feature of every other attack helicopter stellar anyway (cannon, night vision*, range, a2a etc).

(Not including the 50 ofc, though it can still be used to good effect at night)

[El Berl]

引用自 ivercon：

They do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. Every patch nerf something NATO across the board and buff something Soviet across the board. Watch them add a better apfsds for all russian tanks 9.3+

3BM69 Vacuum inbound. It's gonna pen an Abrams twice.

[ivercon]

引用自 V. Berlioz：

引用自 ivercon：

They do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. Every patch nerf something NATO across the board and buff something Soviet across the board. Watch them add a better apfsds for all russian tanks 9.3+

3BM69 Vacuum inbound. It's gonna pen an Abrams twice.

The apfsds formula will somehow not give them the pen they want and they will whip out some voka soaked document from some second uncle, of this dude Ivan, that knows a friend of a developer.

[El Berl]

引用自 ivercon：

引用自 V. Berlioz：

3BM69 Vacuum inbound. It's gonna pen an Abrams twice.

The apfsds formula will somehow not give them the pen they want and they will whip out some voka soaked document from some second uncle, of this dude Ivan, that knows a friend of a developer.

You see comrade. They will find sekrit dokument that indicates existence of secret 125mm shell 3BM78 "Cyka Blyat", which is fired at such high velocity that it goes into orbit, leaves map, and kills enemy Abrams in different lobby! You thought those vertical shots were from artillery, Mason?

Think again!