is APCBC better than AP? tank arcade battles (low tier)

[zangadong]

i would like to know that, i just started playing ground arcade battles and i dont have idea.

should i keep AP or switch to APCBC? i am playing low tier britain.

[Cosmic_Pie_Crust]

Ap shell pen and thats it. APCBC pen and explode cause more damge. You lose pen but make up with the explosion. AP= Better pen APCBC= more damge after pen. Pen vaules are only a small difrence.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

if i was you i would start out with the russian tanks,just untill you have a little experience,and are familiar with the game.they are much more forgiving than any other nation.and they are good for learning the game and its mechanics.
but about the ammo,if youre just starting,the stock ammo should be more than sufficient.

[Cheeki breeki]

hau ai can get mig 9

[Cosmic_Pie_Crust]

I started with germans. But i reckon you best of starting with the country you like. So you can learn the tanks weakspot and strength. The brits are pretty strong in tier 1. They suffer from the same probleam as the us which is mostly Ap shell. However there got great reload the brits.

[Dakota]

I'd recommend starting off as US, just try not to flip over

[Colonel Jason]

Well APBC has less penetration compared to AP but it explodes(expect brits,they shells are not explode,just spread a shrapnel if you lucky) when penetrates the target.

[Kay]

Originally posted by Zombie_man:

Ap shell pen and thats it. APCBC pen and explode cause more damge. You lose pen but make up with the explosion. AP= Better pen APCBC= more damge after pen. Pen vaules are only a small difrence.

Not quite, only rounds with HE filler explode, which can be any AP round, but not all AP rounds have HE filler.

AP rounds are a simple solid projectile, APCBC (AP capped ballistic capped) rounds are AP rounds with a ballistic cap (better flight characteristics) and an extra cap to prevent rounds shattering on impact.

any round with HE filler is usually a good idea, as long as you can still pen things of your tier. APCBC tend to be better at long range than AP rounds though.

Edit: APCBC also tend to have a lower short-range pen value

[Gerarderloper]

AP actually has lower pen on allot of tanks compared to APHE 'type' rounds. Look at the 30degree slope stat, THAT is pretty important as you will never get 90degree super flat shots on enemy tanks!

[squatdog_nz]

Originally posted by Zombie_man:

Ap shell pen and thats it. APCBC pen and explode cause more damge. You lose pen but make up with the explosion. AP= Better pen APCBC= more damge after pen. Pen vaules are only a small difrence.

WUT?

The BC stands for 'Ballistic Cap', which decreases the chance of the shell bouncing on sloped armour.

[Foxtrot39]

AP/APC : your either solid slug shell [no explosive] (better pen, less damage) or APHE [contain explosive] (better damage, less pen)

APBC/APCBC : The Ballistic Cap help to maintain your penetration high over longer range then like I said above AP solid slug shell [no explosive] (better pen, less damage) or APHE type [contain explosive] (better damage, less pen)

[Cosmic_Pie_Crust]

Originally posted by Ki'agh utility:

Originally posted by Zombie_man:

Ap shell pen and thats it. APCBC pen and explode cause more damge. You lose pen but make up with the explosion. AP= Better pen APCBC= more damge after pen. Pen vaules are only a small difrence.

Not quite, only rounds with HE filler explode, which can be any AP round, but not all AP rounds have HE filler.

AP rounds are a simple solid projectile, APCBC (AP capped ballistic capped) rounds are AP rounds with a ballistic cap (better flight characteristics) and an extra cap to prevent rounds shattering on impact.

any round with HE filler is usually a good idea, as long as you can still pen things of your tier. APCBC tend to be better at long range than AP rounds though.

Edit: APCBC also tend to have a lower short-range pen value

I always tought that it had a small explosive charge in the cap. Anyway nice to know.

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by Zombie_man:

Originally posted by Ki'agh utility:

Not quite, only rounds with HE filler explode, which can be any AP round, but not all AP rounds have HE filler.

AP rounds are a simple solid projectile, APCBC (AP capped ballistic capped) rounds are AP rounds with a ballistic cap (better flight characteristics) and an extra cap to prevent rounds shattering on impact.

any round with HE filler is usually a good idea, as long as you can still pen things of your tier. APCBC tend to be better at long range than AP rounds though.

Edit: APCBC also tend to have a lower short-range pen value

I always tought that it had a small explosive charge in the cap. Anyway nice to know. :B1:

The first cap, as said, was designed to prevent (well, help prevent) the shell from shattering on impact. The Ballistic cap is a thin hollow cone. The Germans added (I believe) phosphorus when making the steel for there ballistic caps so the gunner and/or commander could tell if the shell hit its target. The HE filler is inside the shell (but this also weakens it as you now have a hollow center with a powder filling) resulting in thiner walls of the shell (making the shell more prone to shattering) which was common in large Soviet AP rounds filled with an HE filler (IS-2's being quite known for this).

Originally posted by Zombie_man:

Ap shell pen and thats it. APCBC pen and explode cause more damge. You lose pen but make up with the explosion. AP= Better pen APCBC= more damge after pen. Pen vaules are only a small difrence.

Not always true. Most British tanks have APCBC (40mm Shot Mk.1 APCBC/T, 57mm Shot Mk.9, 75mm M61, 20 pounder Shot Mk.1, 76 and 77mm Shot Mk.8, and the 94mm Shot Mk.1) and none have an explosive filler as the British did not like having HE filler inside them.

[Azzure]

i just want to know which one to use for my 2.0 battle rating lmao i dont want to know how it effects the target, just say which is better for which situation

edit: ha 2016 comments gg

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Originally posted by Azzure:

i just want to know which one to use for my 2.0 battle rating lmao i dont want to know how it effects the target, just say which is better for which situation

edit: ha 2016 comments gg

2.0 is such a low tier that you can get away with just about anything. APCBC (With HE filler, unlike a lot of british tanks..) and APHE are really quite good. Most solid shot, while having higher penetration, lacks the post-penetration effects of a shell with HE filler. While a lot of AP shells without filler have gotten better with time, APCBC/APHE both work a lot better than AP in my opinion.

While not as good, I have had some success with the low tier HEAT rounds, but mostly because the reload rate on low tier german tanks is pretty quick. Most autocannons are still effective at this tier, use AP/APCR and you should be able to get quite a few kills.

Thread locked since it's really out of date... Best just to start a new thread if you have questions you want answered :)