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It will get marginally better as spaded, it will mess with your head though. You have been warned
Aye, I saw so already. Man, maybe it's just because people like PhlyDaily are on a different skill level, but the planes that turn out to be bad always seem to perform MUCH better in their videos. And the one I watched in particular, it was back when it was tiered up against the likes of MiG-15's and so, but still it performed well. Yet, somehow, I get wrecked by aircraft like the Ho 229 and Yak-15.
Do the British have *any* good low level jets, then?
Guns take a little getting used to being wing mounted but playing brits means you should be well used to it by now.
I like the Venom but you do need to put some practice in with the vampire.
Well, the Griffon Spitfires B&Z anyway, so I more or lesshave it pegged down. The Attcker at least seems to be able to turn better than Me 262's. I almost had one twice in the game I came from just now, but I was outnumbered, so I couldn't get a kill this time either.
So annoying to have a good lock on one target, then being forced to disengage because of someone else on your six. Then you get on theirs, and the one you chased earlier is the new one on you.
Ah, and is the Vampire itself decent, or also terrible?
Attacker is such a weird aircraft. It can easily hit high speeds and the lack of compression at speed is insane. At about 500mph~ I can easily out turn a Mig-15 due to the fact they get compression and cannot get their guns on target. That being said all the Mig-15 has to do is go vertical and it will regain it's energy faster than you can attempt to follow it. The other thing about high speeds is the horizontal stability is dreadful and you will rock back and forth. Also, the point you roll the aircraft around (a sort of line down the centre of the aircraft if you will) starts off in the same position as any other aircraft (centrally in line with the engine or pilot), but the faster you get the higher above the aircraft it gets, meaning at high 550mph~ speeds the aircraft rolls about a point a good 2-3 meters above it.
Engine and speed wise, it's fast and acceleration is decent up until 500mph+. After that point other aircraft may accelerate faster than you (I'm not sure if the spaded version changes this). It also is fastest at low altitudes but to get up to the high speeds will require a dive, meaning a short climb at the start of the match is in order. Turning the aircraft will lose a lot of energy and speed, and because of its status as a first generation jet the energy gain is not very good, but the energy retention in vertical climbs is moderately good. Boom and zoom is therefore the preferred tactic of this aircraft.
The guns are shotguns until the upgrade is unlocked and the wing mounted aspect of them makes them a huge amount harder to use than nose mounted weapons, but they are good weapons when they hit and the ammo capacity is decent. Other than that, you also get a ground payload is potentially useful if you plan on lawnmowing for easier money and RP.
Overall it's just an aircraft which requires patience and time to master, since it's characteristics as an aircraft are so different to anything before it. I'd heavily recommend avoiding turnfights and trying to stick to BnZ tactics or catching low energy planes off guard. It's more of a low level skirmisher due to the high speed, but low operational altitude and consequently I feel it should avoid the major dogfights and pick off enemies that are too fast for your Meteor team mates (which are not too fast for you).
It's a hard and punishing aircraft, and also leads onto nothing of value. That being said, I think it's one of the only British jet aircraft to get a payload at all, so it could be of some use in a ground forces 8.0 game. Good luck with flying it whatever you do.
I'll let you figure the rest out.
It's starting to seem to me like jet combat is best avoided. I used to look greatly forward to owning my first jet or two after years of playing, but now, seeing how difficult it is to get even a single kill and the exhorbitant repair costs, I'm not so certain...
Urgh, as if that is not a problem enough, my main frustration is that my pilot keeps blacking out. In one of my matches with the Attacker, I kid you not, he blacked out seven times in a single match. I can't perform even the most basic turns without having to give up all my speed, in which case the enemy fleis circles around me by then.
So, from the many insights you've given, would it be worth just enduring the grind for the modifications?
Thank you, though, the information really is very helpful and plentiful. :-)
Myabe it's my imagination, but I think I'm starting to notice a theme here with the British: it appears that overall their jets and bombers are horribly outmatched by those of other nations, and their only real redeeming quality - but a VERY strong one at that - are its piston engine fighters, with the top tier ones being amongst the only climbers in the game powerful enough to meet the best German and Soviet climbers at high alt for fair engagement and even with advantages.
I did have a suspicion...
I mean, Hispannos still perform really well, but not as well as it used to be...
The name doesn't necessarily concretely determine the role. Besides, as I've said before, I have seen a few videos on YouTube of it being used to extreme effect as an aircraft hunter.
I know full well that 'attacker' is a category of aircraft in the game, but the word itself contains a plethora of meanings which, again, doesn't indicate that just because Attacker is the jet's name means that ground attacking is its role. It didn't even commit to said role in real life.
I feel it might be worth playing - I personally find it to be an intriguing aircraft, but you really have to master the different flight mechanics, and specifically the flight style of it is very important. And no worries on plentiful information, it's basically a summary of all the pain and problems I've had whilst flying the Attacker :) but also it's merits.
Top tier props are very good, especially Grif. spits but the Tempest and Sea Fury could be better. Seafire FR 47 is honestly awful, like a severely underpowered Wyvern. The Canberra series of bomber is considered a "safe" class of bomber to fly and you will always get something out of a game in the Canberra, B57, Arado, IL-28 etc.
It should be noted that the Hunter is the fastest, and possibly best armed, jet in the game. So if you can stomach two mediocre/bad jets you can get a serious bit of kit. Also worth noting is that the Scimitar jet (like a Hunter sea variant) could be coming soon to the naval tree so the Attacker could lead onto something good in the future. There's a chance that the Sea Hawk may be added also so that's another thing to look forward too.
Any other inquries into British naval aircraft and I'll be happy to share my opinions/experience :)
As mentioned which i forgot about, it can carry a handy payload, 12 rockets iirc and 2 1000 pdr bombs, so yeah you can ground attack pretty well.
You also would not be the 1st, and i doubt the last to drop jets all together and stay in the late props.
Boy, ain't that a fact. I'm obviously trying to upgrade it, but getting the crew points for it is taking an eternity since I hardly get any kills.
Yeah, same, which is why I don't want to give up on it despite the major setbacks thus far. Haha, glad to hear. As much footage as there is out there, it's very, very rare to find advice any deeper than "It's bad," or "It's good." Prompting an explanation then usually leads to flaming for some reason.
Aye, flown with the Spitfire F. MK 22 for quite some time now, and although I'm not very good with it, I can truly say it's an incredible aicraft. It's high time I acquired the F. MK 24 as well. For me, the Sea Fury feels as though it's performing every bit as well as it should be. The Seafire FR 47, however, grieves me greatly. As I understand, it used to fly VERY well below a certain altitude until not long after its release, when it was supposedly nerfed. It deserves better.
Interesting perspective on the Canberras there, as pretty much the only input I see for it everywhere it that it is advised against because it has no armament and can more or less easily be caught by jet fighters at its BR. So what makes you say it's so rewarding, may I ask?
Ah, awesome! So the British might definitely receive more love in the future. Aye, I heard amazing things about the Hunter and I'm glad that it, it least, is every bit as formidable in the game as its real life counterpart, and did the hype leading up to its release justice.
Awesome. I have added you, so I will definitely have more questions in future, thanks. :-)
Aye, I noticed that with some of them at least. I also noticed that the Ho 229 seems to be performing much better than it used to, as at one point I saw nothing but complaints, and now many players are using it. Also has some incredible custom skins on WT Live, by the way.
The Attacker? Yeah, looking forward to that. I just hope the scenario changes someday where 9 out of 10 times, I encounter at least one enemy player near or at the ground targets I aim for since the start of the match, then they completely tunnel vision on me or have some of their teammates arrive on the scene as well within moments.
Clearly. To be fair, I did just start for the very first time with jet combat, and although it's been unpleasant so far, I will persist with gritted teeth, and hopefully jets like the Venom and Hunter will improve that experience. I once HATED late piston aircraft combat as well because it remains stressful and there was the horrific Bearcat spam of a few years back that saw almost everyone go for them and ditch planes of all other nations, as even jets couldn't compete with them.
Looking at the aircraft above it on the tree usually gives you a good idea on its role.
Nope, it's in the line of naval aircraft, some of which are primarily ground attackers (Firefly) and others, like the plane *just* before it, the Sea Fury FB 11, which is definitely a B&Z aircraft.
Aye, correct.