So, the SU-25K is ridiculously op.

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EDIT: OK, I GET IT. STFU. JESUS. STFU.

[Aleuvian]

The reason why you see multiple posts that something is "overpowered" or "underpowered" is because you have a distinct difference in players.

You have the ground players who get ♥♥♥♥ on by these vehicles in GRB.
You have the air players who get ♥♥♥♥ on in these vehicles in RAB.

[JuX]

Saw gameplay footage of it and have to say it's completely overpowered.

Same caliber maingun as the A-10, but unlike A-10 can one shot MBT's with ease. Just getting a single penetration on any part of the tank and it just blows up.

Ballistic computer combined with rockets that are similar to the G.91 fiasco back in the day. Where you just land the rocket remotely close to someone and they just die.

Stalinium plating. This jet can take 2 direct stinger missiles hits and still fly perfectly fine. To a point their armor can be considered russian bias, as even their hinds and Ka-50's can soak stinger missiles the sameway and still function.

[-reno-FR-]

Nguyên văn bởi Quirked Up White Boy Goated With:

Nguyên văn bởi -reno-FR-:

- Players crying about a too op plane.

- Players crying about a too bad plane.

A common day on War Thunder with their never satisfied kids.

Another day of a gaijin apologist making excuses for poor game design.

Good game design by some smart players :
- they have armed tanks versus unarmed ennemies.
- well armored tanks versus non armored ones (even if those are unarmed, it's just in case of...)
- flat map of 1*1m (with no vegetation and no buildings)
- Auto lock & auto fire at ennemy weakspot.
- Auto win feature, even more in case of an accidental disconnection.

With yet those features, the common player on War Thunder should be satisfied.

[dLFN]

Nguyên văn bởi HOBO ACTUAL:

Nguyên văn bởi xCrossFaith:

You only need to roam the forums for a few minutes to see various tjis is op" and "this is trash" regarding the same exact vehicle, is kinda impressive :D

People complaining about the f14 cause they say it’s op and they don’t know how to counter it

People complaining about the a10 and su25 when literally they aren’t that good

It’s funny.

Both planes are very dangerous when flown by a competent pilot. Thankfully those are quite rare in War Thunder.

[halolo39]

remove the OP missiles, the A-10 and SU-25 are pretty much useless without them for the average pilots you see in matches.

[Shattesky]

I just think, anything with Sraams, R-60s or similars, matched with planes with no flares (9.3 mostly) is just a death sentence for them.

I've been a Hunter FGA. 9 for a long time now, stopped playing it when the F-14A was announced and switched to the F-5C.

In the meantime, the Hunter got dropped to 9.3 which would seem good as that would spare it from many highly capable missiles, but having planes with those kinds of missiles at 9.3 is just dazzling.

I had my fair share of encounters with missiles and usually I manage to avoid them, be with flares or not, but when faced with an R-60, SRAAM, AIM-9(G,H,L...), if you're flareless, not even an Aced crew in a turnfighter will save you form it.

[HOBO ACTUAL]

Nguyên văn bởi JuX:

Saw gameplay footage of it and have to say it's completely overpowered.

Same caliber maingun as the A-10, but unlike A-10 can one shot MBT's with ease. Just getting a single penetration on any part of the tank and it just blows up.

Lol what? It has like hella less pen than the a10. The a10 can pen like 90 something mm of armour and the su25 can pen like 50 something. What fever dream you living? You can one shot an asu57 maybe.

Ballistic computer

Every plane basically has one hell even my mig 23 mld fighter has one.

combined with rockets that are similar to the G.91 fiasco back in the day. Where you just land the rocket remotely close to someone and they just die.

Not true at all they have to hit directly for medium tanks at 6.7 and up or they damage modules like tracks only I’ve fired a full volley of the biggest rockets it has at a 6.7 American medium tank and unless it hits directly it just cause track and modular damage.

Stalinium plating. This jet can take 2 direct stinger missiles hits and still fly perfectly fine. To a point their armor can be considered russian bias, as even their hinds and Ka-50's can soak stinger missiles the sameway and still function.

Yeah it’s called the flying tank and trades that armour for other things such as speed and maneuverability. The a10 can tank a few hits too it’s how they get away with being slower attack aircraft without dying so easily to aa

[HOBO ACTUAL]

Nguyên văn bởi halolo39:

remove the OP missiles, the A-10 and SU-25 are pretty much useless without them for the average pilots you see in matches.

They aren’t op at all they’re just r60s but all aspect they’re the exact same pretty well as the ones on the mig 27 the reason people consider them dangerous op is because they’re too dumb to learn not to fly head on and get locked and fired on 2km out and they can’t pull out of the engagement in time and get smacked by the missile. Sure they’re 30 g turn but there’s other planes with better or similar missiles in the game. Just learn not to fly right at it or flare when you do. R60s are highly susceptible to flares.

[JuX]

Nguyên văn bởi HOBO ACTUAL:

Nguyên văn bởi JuX:

Saw gameplay footage of it and have to say it's completely overpowered.

Same caliber maingun as the A-10, but unlike A-10 can one shot MBT's with ease. Just getting a single penetration on any part of the tank and it just blows up.

Lol what? It has like hella less pen than the a10. The a10 can pen like 90 something mm of armour and the su25 can pen like 50 something. What fever dream you living? You can one shot an asu57 maybe.

Ballistic computer

Every plane basically has one hell even my mig 23 mld fighter has one.

combined with rockets that are similar to the G.91 fiasco back in the day. Where you just land the rocket remotely close to someone and they just die.

Not true at all they have to hit directly for medium tanks at 6.7 and up or they damage modules like tracks only I’ve fired a full volley of the biggest rockets it has at a 6.7 American medium tank and unless it hits directly it just cause track and modular damage.

Stalinium plating. This jet can take 2 direct stinger missiles hits and still fly perfectly fine. To a point their armor can be considered russian bias, as even their hinds and Ka-50's can soak stinger missiles the sameway and still function.

Yeah it’s called the flying tank and trades that armour for other things such as speed and maneuverability. The a10 can tank a few hits too it’s how they get away with being slower attack aircraft without dying so easily to aa

Not really thou. Iv shot down multiple A-10's in the past with just handful of 50cal rounds to the engine and they died instantly.

SU-25 can tank multiple stinger missiles to the face and still be perfectly operable. Im calling BS on that. Just like how hinds and ka-50's can also tank multiple stinger missiles.

[HOBO ACTUAL]

Nguyên văn bởi JuX:

Nguyên văn bởi HOBO ACTUAL:

Yeah it’s called the flying tank and trades that armour for other things such as speed and maneuverability. The a10 can tank a few hits too it’s how they get away with being slower attack aircraft without dying so easily to aa

Not really thou. Iv shot down multiple A-10's in the past with just handful of 50cal rounds to the engine and they died instantly.

SU-25 can tank multiple stinger missiles to the face and still be perfectly operable. Im calling BS on that. Just like how hinds and ka-50's can also tank multiple stinger missiles.

Gee it’s almost like you shoot anything in the engine it’s gonna die. I’ve died to one aim 9b before in the su25 there are lots of variables at play and once instance of the a10 dying to a 50 cal to the engine does no immediately make it weak. I have the a10 and I’ve tanked multiple r60s before. So it’s not like it’s anything different.

[The Bone Zone]

Nguyên văn bởi HOBO ACTUAL:

Nguyên văn bởi halolo39:

remove the OP missiles, the A-10 and SU-25 are pretty much useless without them for the average pilots you see in matches.

They aren’t op at all they’re just r60s but all aspect they’re the exact same pretty well as the ones on the mig 27 the reason people consider them dangerous op is because they’re too dumb to learn not to fly head on and get locked and fired on 2km out and they can’t pull out of the engagement in time and get smacked by the missile. Sure they’re 30 g turn but there’s other planes with better or similar missiles in the game. Just learn not to fly right at it or flare when you do. R60s are highly susceptible to flares.

R60s as a whole? not op sure, they can be countered by flares and they mostly exist on jets that face other jets with flares
R60s against subsonic jets with no flares that the su-25 w ill regularly face? well those are just 2 free kills waiting to happen, missing R60s against these type of jets is the biggest skill issue in existance

But i'm glad you compared it to the mig-27 because that one has r-60m as well, not like that jet is 11.0 and fights jets that are capable of countering missiles

I will say that what the other guy said is dumb, you can't remove the missiles, it would be against the law as they would change something they sold and gaijin can get sued for it, but any sort of 30-35g capable missile against jets with no flares is dumb and shouldn't be a thing

[legaroojack]

Nguyên văn bởi Til_Dovre_Faller:

Nguyên văn bởi HOBO ACTUAL:

That doesn’t make it op.

Yes it does

No it doesnt.

[Nem0]

Nguyên văn bởi ProfessorParker:

i think we need more realism with them and some just don't fly right or just fall out of the sky due to lack of maintenance

[Til_Dovre_Faller]

Nguyên văn bởi Peoples Republic of North Korea:

Nguyên văn bởi Til_Dovre_Faller:

Yes it does

No it doesnt.

It does

[legaroojack]

Nguyên văn bởi Til_Dovre_Faller:

Nguyên văn bởi Peoples Republic of North Korea:

No it doesnt.

It does

how exactly? It has significantly less pen than the A-10 and is constantly shot down in ground RB. The only time its a problem is when they are swarming you and thats the case with almost every plane.