Sweden too OP?

[Marty]

After this new update from the "finnish" , i thought we were gonna get Finald as a playable country,not just put into sweden tech line. It just makes sweden too overpowered now since you can play as 2 leopard 2A5s (STRV) and a Leopard 2a6 and you know miswell throw in the T80U. Makes sweden way too overpowered and should be changed.

[OneEye]

Makes up for the completely useless STRV 103 cheese wedge tanks I guess. Maybe one day they will fix those.

[shipdesignerdude]

Finland from it's devblog was described as being a subtree. That aside, the Swedish Leopards have poor penetrating shells from what I remember, and a little more armor. I do agree this is a little much, considering SA ended at 10.0. Sweden now has a better toptier than Italy and Israel combined I'll bet.

[xCrossFaith]

Let me guess, you wouldn't say anything if those were added to US or Germany

I'm all in for criticism when they ♥♥♥♥ up but come on

Something is added - bad
Something is not added - bad
Something is changed - bad
Something remains the same - bad


It seem like the only allowed stuff has to go to either Germany or US, otherwise is bad

[Reaper Jack]

Originally posted by OneEye:

Makes up for the completely useless STRV 103 cheese wedge tanks I guess. Maybe one day they will fix those.

They're perfectly fine on flat ground these days, but still struggle at side angles and on elevated positions where they can hull down (like they need to in order to avoid every shot destroying your engine) the only map they can hull down on properly is Normandy in those little C shaped concrete bunker things, and they're very powerful in those, especially the first one if it's top BR in a game.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by 0_DEEG:

After this new update from the "finnish" , i thought we were gonna get Finald as a playable country,not just put into sweden tech line.

Why would you think that?


https://warthunder.com/en/news/7908-development-finnish-aviation-and-armored-vehicles-en

In the upcoming War Thunder “Fire and Ice” update, we plan to introduce lineups of Finnish aircraft and ground vehicles as part of the Swedish tech tree!

[AttackerCat]

Given that the patch has been live for less than 24 hours, I believe it is safe to say there is not evidence to support winrate claims yet.

[Lt-AlphaFoxtrot]

Originally posted by OneEye:

Makes up for the completely useless STRV 103 cheese wedge tanks I guess. Maybe one day they will fix those.

As long as you don't use it in CQC, you'll have better game on it. This thing is almost invincible at mid and long range. It's my 2nd,3rd, and 4th Nuke generator out of my 8 nukes on my first 12 months in the game.

[OneEye]

Originally posted by Lt-AlphaFoxtrot:

Originally posted by OneEye:

Makes up for the completely useless STRV 103 cheese wedge tanks I guess. Maybe one day they will fix those.

As long as you don't use it in CQC, you'll have better game on it. This thing is almost invincible at mid and long range. It's my 2nd,3rd, and 4th Nuke generator out of my 8 nukes on my first 12 months in the game.

Except it only works on flat ground and adjusting it even in hull aim mode it’s awful to aim. The tank is a gimmick in this game at best and was thrown in half assed and sadly WOT has modeled its aiming better than this game.

[Fyrliel]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

Let me guess, you wouldn't say anything if those were added to US or Germany

I'm all in for criticism when they ♥♥♥♥ up but come on

Something is added - bad
Something is not added - bad
Something is changed - bad
Something remains the same - bad


It seem like the only allowed stuff has to go to either Germany or US, otherwise is bad

Well if Gaijin was even half competent people wouldn’t be mad would they.

[Ddinosaur]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

Let me guess, you wouldn't say anything if those were added to US or Germany

I'm all in for criticism when they ♥♥♥♥ up but come on

Something is added - bad
Something is not added - bad
Something is changed - bad
Something remains the same - bad


It seem like the only allowed stuff has to go to either Germany or US, otherwise is bad

Cross country vehicles are aids no matter the nations

But minor nations just ♥♥♥♥ the match making

So yeah consolidated trees so brs and balancing can remain consistent is pretty cool too bad we don't have that

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by OneEye:

Makes up for the completely useless STRV 103 cheese wedge tanks I guess. Maybe one day they will fix those.

There's nothing wrong with the tanks, it's just gaijins map and game "design" making an entire class of vehicles useless.

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:

Originally posted by OneEye:

Makes up for the completely useless STRV 103 cheese wedge tanks I guess. Maybe one day they will fix those.

There's nothing wrong with the tanks, it's just gaijins map and game "design" making an entire class of vehicles useless.

i can tell you during the beta when the premium prototype version was first released it was fantastic and i could go hull down behind a low hill and actually survive long enough i stood a real chance of running out of ammo before anyone could dig me out, they since nerfed their mouse aim/steering mode into the ground with the premium being significantly worse than the production versions justified by its prototype status.

Last i played it a few months back it was genuinely unplayable to the point of actually fishtailing your aim, swinging meters to either side of your target without settling and would have a fit vibrating like crazy if you tried use its suspension on a slope.

If they fixed/reverted this i would love to know because it was fantastic a long time ago

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:

There's nothing wrong with the tanks, it's just gaijins map and game "design" making an entire class of vehicles useless.

i can tell you during the beta when the premium prototype version was first released it was fantastic and i could go hull down behind a low hill and actually survive long enough i stood a real chance of running out of ammo before anyone could dig me out, they since nerfed their mouse aim/steering mode into the ground with the premium being significantly worse than the production versions justified by its prototype status.

Last i played it a few months back it was genuinely unplayable to the point of actually fishtailing your aim, swinging meters to either side of your target without settling and would have a fit vibrating like crazy if you tried use its suspension on a slope.

If they fixed/reverted this i would love to know because it was fantastic a long time ago

I test drived it a couple of months ago and saw no problem, it just sucks 90% of the time since there's very little the Strv-103 can do in a cramped city map.

[dLFN]

Originally posted by shipdesignerdude:

Finland from it's devblog was described as being a subtree. That aside, the Swedish Leopards have poor penetrating shells from what I remember, and a little more armor. I do agree this is a little much, considering SA ended at 10.0. Sweden now has a better toptier than Italy and Israel combined I'll bet.

Sweden got a good top tier shell months ago, even with the old DM33 the Strv 122 would cave everyone's skull in if the person in the Strv 122 could aim for weakspots. Sweden didn't need any top tier addition except maybe a better cas aircraft since the AJ37 has the equivalent load out of a drone.

[SpiralRazor]

Originally posted by 0_DEEG:

After this new update from the "finnish" , i thought we were gonna get Finald as a playable country,not just put into sweden tech line. It just makes sweden too overpowered now since you can play as 2 leopard 2A5s (STRV) and a Leopard 2a6 and you know miswell throw in the T80U. Makes sweden way too overpowered and should be changed.

Then you didnt bother to read anything prior. Derp comment, sorry.