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Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 5:31am
Merkava Mk.2D
Why is this tank not 9.3

My ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ZTZ96 is 9.3

Why is this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tank 9.0 Gaijin are you catatonic?
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hsf_ Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:21am 
It's easy to kill though, just like all MBTs at 8.7+

What makes you believe it should be moving up to 9.3?
Tom Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by ODINMASTER:
Also you mention the ZTZ96... you know that that thing has the main weakspot of all russian tanks right? Its ammo... if any shot penetrates it just hits the ammo. Thats not cause the merkava is OP, its cause your tank isnt designed well

I mention the ZTZ96 being 9.3 to showcase how undertiered the Merkava is at 9.0

I know Chinese tanks are a meme, I enjoy the meme. That doesn't mean I'm not going to complain when I'm fighting a tank which compared to all other similarly ranked tanks it under its BR.
The T72B3 Also has that weakspot and worse reverse, does that make it worse than the MK2D despite being 10.7?
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by hsf_:
It's easy to kill though, just like all MBTs at 8.7+

What makes you believe it should be moving up to 9.3?

It shouldn't be able to fight 8.0
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by Tom:
Originally posted by Vamilad:

I mention the ZTZ96 being 9.3 to showcase how undertiered the Merkava is at 9.0

I know Chinese tanks are a meme, I enjoy the meme. That doesn't mean I'm not going to complain when I'm fighting a tank which compared to all other similarly ranked tanks it under its BR.
The T72B3 Also has that weakspot and worse reverse, does that make it worse than the MK2D despite being 10.7?

I don't look at weakspots as a base judgement for a vehicle's strengths. I don't know why people do that when you're not going to make a perfect shot in every engagement. The majority of the time the Merkava in a head on fight has limited penetration opportunities that will instantly knock out the tank.
ODINMASTER Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by ODINMASTER:
Well its your fault you cant fight merkavas

Yes in the same way it's your fault the sun will explode in 2.5 billion years.
No cause I cant control that, meanwhile you can get better at the game to deal with merkavas. You are just a bad player
hsf_ Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by hsf_:
It's easy to kill though, just like all MBTs at 8.7+

What makes you believe it should be moving up to 9.3?

It shouldn't be able to fight 8.0

You can still kill it at 8.0...
Tom Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by Tom:
The T72B3 Also has that weakspot and worse reverse, does that make it worse than the MK2D despite being 10.7?

I don't look at weakspots as a base judgement for a vehicle's strengths. I don't know why people do that when you're not going to make a perfect shot in every engagement. The majority of the time the Merkava in a head on fight has limited penetration opportunities that will instantly knock out the tank.
Because it's highly survivable for crew, that's the only advantage it has, have you though about shooting it's breach to disable it? Cause you can't realistically one shot a merkava because of crew layouts no matter the BR
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by hsf_:
Originally posted by Vamilad:

It shouldn't be able to fight 8.0

You can still kill it at 8.0...

I can kill any tank in the game with any tank in the game minus like the Maus, that doesn't mean it's balanced.
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Tom:
Originally posted by Vamilad:

I don't look at weakspots as a base judgement for a vehicle's strengths. I don't know why people do that when you're not going to make a perfect shot in every engagement. The majority of the time the Merkava in a head on fight has limited penetration opportunities that will instantly knock out the tank.
Because it's highly survivable for crew, that's the only advantage it has, have you though about shooting it's breach to disable it? Cause you can't realistically one shot a merkava because of crew layouts no matter the BR

Yes which is where the BR comes in to play. Not everyone has 300 pen APFSDS at 8.0
Tom Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by hsf_:

You can still kill it at 8.0...

I can kill any tank in the game with any tank in the game minus like the Maus, that doesn't mean it's balanced.
So you can't kill a merkava therefore balance should be shifted according to your wants because.... You suck?
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Tom:
Originally posted by Vamilad:

I can kill any tank in the game with any tank in the game minus like the Maus, that doesn't mean it's balanced.
So you can't kill a merkava therefore balance should be shifted according to your wants because.... You suck?

I can kill the Merkava the balanced should be shifted because it overperforms compared to similar tiered vehicles and would still be comfortable at 9.3
Tom Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by Tom:
Because it's highly survivable for crew, that's the only advantage it has, have you though about shooting it's breach to disable it? Cause you can't realistically one shot a merkava because of crew layouts no matter the BR

Yes which is where the BR comes in to play. Not everyone has 300 pen APFSDS at 8.0
Most do, Heck china gets tandem warhead firing armored cars that Can fire APFSDS, Also APDS from things like the type 59 Is plenty enough to knock a merkava
Tom Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Vamilad:
Originally posted by Tom:
So you can't kill a merkava therefore balance should be shifted according to your wants because.... You suck?

I can kill the Merkava the balanced should be shifted because it overperforms compared to similar tiered vehicles and would still be comfortable at 9.3
It doesn't overperform, it's outperfomed in every way except mobility, stop finding excuses. A vehicle not being easy to one-shot doesn't make it OP, especially if that's it's whole selling point
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Tom:
Originally posted by Vamilad:

Yes which is where the BR comes in to play. Not everyone has 300 pen APFSDS at 8.0
Most do, Heck china gets tandem warhead firing armored cars that Can fire APFSDS, Also APDS from things like the type 59 Is plenty enough to knock a merkava

That's a premium lol

The Type 59 yes, the Type 69 no
Vamilad (Banned) Jun 14, 2022 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Tom:
Originally posted by Vamilad:

I can kill the Merkava the balanced should be shifted because it overperforms compared to similar tiered vehicles and would still be comfortable at 9.3
It doesn't overperform, it's outperfomed in every way except mobility, stop finding excuses. A vehicle not being easy to one-shot doesn't make it OP, especially if that's it's whole selling point

It has a spacious inside. It has usable APFSDS, it has all the bells and whistles before any other tank at the BR. The only thing it doesn't have is the best gun, but the gun it has is pretty damn good.
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