Why is nobody complaining about Russian tanks?

[Ivan]

Russian top tier:

MBT: T72B3, T90A, T72B (x2), T72A, T80 BVM, T80U, T80B, T64A, T64B

- Literally the same tanks only difference is some of them dont have thermals others have also armor doesnt matter because everyone shoots russian mbts in weakspots no matter what pen you have

Light Tanks: 2x Sprut, BMP2, BMP2M, BMP3

- Absolutely insane IFVs which can take out multiple opponents in 2-3 seconds especially BMP2M

Anti Air: Tunguska

- I have no complaints about Tunguska but it is extremely strong compared to other AA vehicles in its BR

Anti Tank Missile Carriers: IT-1, Shturm-S, Khrizantema-S

- IT-1 is extremely good in its BR and super useful even in 11.0 at end game, Shturm-S is also really good and has thermal and VT missiles, Khrizantema-S has ground radar and can lock trough smoke onto helicopters, tanks and aircraft

Helicopters: KAncer 50, ka 52, mi 28nm, mi 28n

- I dont think i need to say anything about these helicopters ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible to kill even when they are killed they can still fly and shoot and have 10km missiles

Aircraft: MiG 27k and M

- I dont also think i need to cover this since they can climb into space and get 4 easy kills and AA cant even kill them since 99% of AA in game cant shoot up to 10 km or see the aircraft 10km in to air

Honorable mentions: T72 Turms, Obj 279 (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cancer), T72 moderna, BMD 4.

- And another notable mention is that russian tanks cost maximal 3 rubles to repair meanwhile NATO nations have 3 max 4 same top tier MBTs with 1 helicopter and 1 good aircraft and they cost minimally 20-40k SL to repair (not to mention sweden) which is impossible to make without premium because russians have so many same tanks that perform extremely good.

Also doesnt russia have like 70% winrate in top tier? I cant remember last game i won vs russians in top tier.

I want to hear your opinion on russians in wt especially top tier, i know they made a lot of tanks and are very cheap but this is getting out of hand a year ago it wasnt so bad like it is now literally you need a pre made clan to beat them.

[Akagi]

Yup, no one has ever complained about Russia before. That term "russian bias"? No, that's a term for complaining about Yugoslavian tanks being overpowered

[Neckstabba]

İlk olarak flat_Lander1 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak {NTB} TheInflictor tarafından gönderildi:

In my opinion a lot of them are very under tiered......I just deal with it the best I can. It probably will not change.

high tier undertiered? like what? 10.7 tanks are undertiered or 10.0 or 11.0?????

2S6 is 10.7 while there is no spaa that has 10km missiles under 11.0. All 10km missiles have 11.0 SAM's but not with Russia. Not to mention it performs much better than alot of SPAA's while also getting put into 9.7 games. Balanse right.

I really wish the Devs would not favour Russia so hardcore to let them be a braindead monkey nation..

[mogami_99]

did he really say nobody?

[Ivan]

İlk olarak mogami_99 tarafından gönderildi:

did he really say nobody?

yes i did because i didnt see anyone complain or any youtuber make a video on russia

[flat_Lander1]

İlk olarak IR9 Andyflosse tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak flat_Lander1 tarafından gönderildi:

high tier undertiered? like what? 10.7 tanks are undertiered or 10.0 or 11.0?????

2S6 is 10.7 while there is no spaa that has 10km missiles under 11.0. All 10km missiles have 11.0 SAM's but not with Russia. Not to mention it performs much better than alot of SPAA's while also getting put into 9.7 games. Balanse right.

I really wish the Devs would not favour Russia so hardcore to let them be a braindead monkey nation..

10.7 or 11.0 makes zero deference
also you forgot that soviets has no aa between 8.0 and 10.7 and most of the aa that are place at 10.0/10.3 have rockets between 6000m and 9000m while some has 12000m at 11 so IT IS logical spaa with 10000m will be placed between 6000-9000m and 12000m

[FizzyElf]

İlk olarak Tom tarafından gönderildi:

No, the T64 T80 T72s and T90s aren't the same, they might look very similar but that's like saying an XM1 Is just like an Abrams, there's huge differences like Armor, shells, reload, sometimes even the gun Is different

I think a lot of that issue really comes down to the fact that most people don't really pay attention to what they are shooting at, they see the general shape of a T series (whether its, chinese or russian) and shoot the same two spots and expect it to explode, they never really consider that these vehicles are layed out differently, some are faster others better armored, some have great optics others don't and so on and to be fair most of the people driving them don't realize this either. The T series is great for it having a vast number of similarly effective vehicles, not because they are clones of each other.

İlk olarak {NTB} TheInflictor tarafından gönderildi:

In my opinion a lot of them are very under tiered......I just deal with it the best I can. It probably will not change.

It won't, stuff like the Turms is just too popular to get any decent stats and go up in BR and there are vehicles like the T-64B where stock it is better than the T-72A despite having the same BR and when spaded its better than the Turms and I would argue better than the T-72B at 9.7 due to it having naturally strong composite armor and a better ERA layout, plus the gun is better than the Turms and on par with the 72B, the tank is amazing at 9.3 and its stupid for it to be down their when its competitors are 9.7. The nice thing is that people are at least experienced enough at this point to know the weak points and they will shoot them if possible, problem being someone like me who brings less ammo and the tank never gets ammo racked because when the enemy pens me they MIGHT hit my driver and otherwise hit nothing but air because they haven't taken the time to actually figure out the 64s-80s have veritically stored charges and if you bring less ammo it clears the left side of the ammo rack so you need to shoot the tank on the commander side but everyone shoots the gunner side instead (another issue is shooting too low and you only hit the rounds which tend to not explode and don't damage the charge which means no BOOM).

İlk olarak Tom tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Blakk7 tarafından gönderildi:

Well russian tanks need to preform good somewhere, like in a game, because the whole world has seen IRL they are flat out garbage...just saying

Just gonna Say any tank would perform terrible in the scenarios they're put in

I don't know about that, I'd say the T series ejection seat preforms way better than the leo's or abrams both in game and in real life.

[FizzyElf]

İlk olarak Akagi tarafından gönderildi:

Yup, no one has ever complained about Russia before. That term "russian bias"? No, that's a term for complaining about Yugoslavian tanks being overpowered

My moderna needs a better Tapna round, Yugo Bias must be enforced, all shall suffer before the might of the T-72m2 Moderna.

[Just Terrible Gameplay]

It's not just top tier with OP Russian tanks it's every tier

[Neckstabba]

İlk olarak flat_Lander1 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak IR9 Andyflosse tarafından gönderildi:

2S6 is 10.7 while there is no spaa that has 10km missiles under 11.0. All 10km missiles have 11.0 SAM's but not with Russia. Not to mention it performs much better than alot of SPAA's while also getting put into 9.7 games. Balanse right.

I really wish the Devs would not favour Russia so hardcore to let them be a braindead monkey nation..

10.7 or 11.0 makes zero deference
also you forgot that soviets has no aa between 8.0 and 10.7 and most of the aa that are place at 10.0/10.3 have rockets between 6000m and 9000m while some has 12000m at 11 so IT IS logical spaa with 10000m will be placed between 6000-9000m and 12000m

It makes literally a game difference. As 11.0 you usually fight other top tiers and with 10.7 you very often get dragged down to 9.7.
The 10.7 Russia or USA lineup can cluster fk 9.7's but no other nation can bring a 10km range Spaa to 9.7 nor an 10km range Heli to 9.7 except Russia. You can defend this all you want both don't belong to 9.7 games and should be raised to 11.0 or the range reduced to 8km like literally ALL other nations.

I understand you love your Russian spoon fed vehicles but only Russia has those things which makes no sense balance wise other than giving them a advantage and have people like you say "it's fine" to curb stomp 9.7's.

[Ivan]

İlk olarak Just Terrible Gameplay tarafından gönderildi:

It's not just top tier with OP Russian tanks it's every tier

i know but top tier is the worst

[Tom]

İlk olarak IR9 Andyflosse tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak flat_Lander1 tarafından gönderildi:

10.7 or 11.0 makes zero deference
also you forgot that soviets has no aa between 8.0 and 10.7 and most of the aa that are place at 10.0/10.3 have rockets between 6000m and 9000m while some has 12000m at 11 so IT IS logical spaa with 10000m will be placed between 6000-9000m and 12000m

It makes literally a game difference. As 11.0 you usually fight other top tiers and with 10.7 you very often get dragged down to 9.7.
The 10.7 Russia or USA lineup can cluster fk 9.7's but no other nation can bring a 10km range Spaa to 9.7 nor an 10km range Heli to 9.7 except Russia. You can defend this all you want both don't belong to 9.7 games and should be raised to 11.0 or the range reduced to 8km like literally ALL other nations.

I understand you love your Russian spoon fed vehicles but only Russia has those things which makes no sense balance wise other than giving them a advantage and have people like you say "it's fine" to curb stomp 9.7's.

the tunguska already only has 8KM of range

[Ivan]

İlk olarak Tom tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak IR9 Andyflosse tarafından gönderildi:

It makes literally a game difference. As 11.0 you usually fight other top tiers and with 10.7 you very often get dragged down to 9.7.
The 10.7 Russia or USA lineup can cluster fk 9.7's but no other nation can bring a 10km range Spaa to 9.7 nor an 10km range Heli to 9.7 except Russia. You can defend this all you want both don't belong to 9.7 games and should be raised to 11.0 or the range reduced to 8km like literally ALL other nations.

I understand you love your Russian spoon fed vehicles but only Russia has those things which makes no sense balance wise other than giving them a advantage and have people like you say "it's fine" to curb stomp 9.7's.

the tunguska already only has 8KM of range

10 km with upgraded missiles

[Tom]

İlk olarak Ronix97 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Tom tarafından gönderildi:

the tunguska already only has 8KM of range

10 km with upgraded missiles

which is still less than most 11.0s, i guess the canons make up for it though, pretty sure they are supposedly moving it up next BR change

[MAG]

russian teams are the worst thats why

[flat_Lander1]

İlk olarak IR9 Andyflosse tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak flat_Lander1 tarafından gönderildi:

10.7 or 11.0 makes zero deference
also you forgot that soviets has no aa between 8.0 and 10.7 and most of the aa that are place at 10.0/10.3 have rockets between 6000m and 9000m while some has 12000m at 11 so IT IS logical spaa with 10000m will be placed between 6000-9000m and 12000m

It makes literally a game difference. As 11.0 you usually fight other top tiers and with 10.7 you very often get dragged down to 9.7.
The 10.7 Russia or USA lineup can cluster fk 9.7's but no other nation can bring a 10km range Spaa to 9.7 nor an 10km range Heli to 9.7 except Russia. You can defend this all you want both don't belong to 9.7 games and should be raised to 11.0 or the range reduced to 8km like literally ALL other nations.

I understand you love your Russian spoon fed vehicles but only Russia has those things which makes no sense balance wise other than giving them a advantage and have people like you say "it's fine" to curb stomp 9.7's.

so the problem is not tunguska itself but the gaijin made tier system>?