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Solaire Jul 12, 2022 @ 3:06pm
F104A vs F104C (America tree)
Which aircraft out of these two is superior for Air RB? They seem pretty much identical, though the C has the extra bomb loads and the probe thingy (that will affect performance though right?) whilst the F104a appears to have more engine thrust (6300kgf on the A vs 6270kgf on the C) and is also presumably lighter. Would i be correct in thinking the original F104A is actually superior to the C?

Note: Well aware they're both competitively ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, just an avid noodle enjoyer
Last edited by Solaire; Jul 12, 2022 @ 3:06pm
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NoFriction Jul 12, 2022 @ 3:14pm 
I don't know which is better, but you should keep in mind that the C has 6% higher RP but 40% LOWER SL multipliers than the A, and the C has a 2,230 SL higher repair cost

also note that the A does not have a Radar Warning Receiver according to x-ray mode, while the C does
Solaire Jul 12, 2022 @ 3:18pm 
Originally posted by Lt. Pte. Toblerone:
I don't know which is better, but you should keep in mind that the C has 6% higher RP but 40% LOWER SL multipliers than the A, and the C has a 2,230 SL higher repair cost

also note that the A does not have a Radar Warning Receiver according to x-ray mode, while the C does
Ah yeah forgot about multipliers but i was mosting thinking in terms of pure performance since i'm just having fun and not grinding with them. Good point on the RWR, the A indeed doesn't get one whilst the C does, i forgot to check as i didn't think either of them got one. Now that i think of it, it's probably that bigass probe on the front of the C i mentioned. Anyways I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative tbh, as while the rwr can be handy not being able to turn it off can be annoying.
Last edited by Solaire; Jul 12, 2022 @ 3:19pm
Commander_JCM Jul 12, 2022 @ 4:12pm 
The air refueling probe you mean? Anyway The F-104C is probably the best bet for the US Starfighters I’ll guess since RWR can be the difference between not acknowledging a radar missile and dying or seeing you’re locked and dumping countermeasures/maneuvering.
ulzgoroth Jul 12, 2022 @ 8:47pm 
Originally posted by Commander_JCM:
The air refueling probe you mean? Anyway The F-104C is probably the best bet for the US Starfighters I’ll guess since RWR can be the difference between not acknowledging a radar missile and dying or seeing you’re locked and dumping countermeasures/maneuvering.
The F-104C doesn't have countermeasures.

I'm pretty sure it's better than the A, though. Maybe a little heavier?
Solaire Jul 12, 2022 @ 9:14pm 
Originally posted by ulzgoroth:
Originally posted by Commander_JCM:
The air refueling probe you mean? Anyway The F-104C is probably the best bet for the US Starfighters I’ll guess since RWR can be the difference between not acknowledging a radar missile and dying or seeing you’re locked and dumping countermeasures/maneuvering.
The F-104C doesn't have countermeasures.

I'm pretty sure it's better than the A, though. Maybe a little heavier?
I thought the A was lighter and had a weaker engine compared to the C, but in fact it appears to be both lighter and has a better engine, unless the stats for the f104a are incorrect.
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Date Posted: Jul 12, 2022 @ 3:06pm
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