Harrier Gr.1

[Cpt. Obvious]

Absolute trash. Missile is useless if a single flare is launched. too slow to be competitive. no radar, no missile warning complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ plane the 105D is better and it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash.

[JuX]

Well 10 br is completely pay-to-win for F-5C and A-5C premiums. And the Mig-21 series pretty much has the only non-premium plane that can compete with them.

Everything els on 10 br is just absolute garbage that is just there to feed these overpowered jets. As most jets don't even have flares to defend against high G missiles of a A-5C and Mig-21's.

F-5C just seems to dogfight everyone els out of the sky and has flares to defend itself against these other overpowered jets.

[Akagi]

You have an insane climb rate paired with an incredible acceleration. I barely have huge struggles if I spaceclimb with it and attack the enemies from above

[Smoked Turkey]

Originally posted by JuX:

Well 10 br is completely pay-to-win for F-5C and A-5C premiums. And the Mig-21 series pretty much has the only non-premium plane that can compete with them.

Everything els on 10 br is just absolute garbage that is just there to feed these overpowered jets. As most jets don't even have flares to defend against high G missiles of a A-5C and Mig-21's.

High G missiles on mig-21? What mig-21 are you playing, the premium mig-21S and the normal (Not Bis) mig-21 have awful missiles that can't pull more then ten gs

[Belmont]

Originally posted by Captain Clown:

Absolute trash. Missile is useless if a single flare is launched. too slow to be competitive. no radar, no missile warning complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ plane the 105D is better and it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash.

It is the classic case in which a person does not know how to use the sraam and the harrier. You have to learn to use something that is not entirely easy for a newbie. It is not the same as other jets. There are many guides about it, go and see those and you will see that you will never come here to breathe your frustration.

[JuX]

Originally posted by Smoked Turkey:

High G missiles on mig-21? What mig-21 are you playing, the premium mig-21S and the normal (Not Bis) mig-21 have awful missiles that can't pull more then ten gs

MiG-21SMT has R-60's that can pull 30G's. It's a 10.3 jet, but 10 br consists of 9.7-10.3's. The german Mig-21 also have R-60's and premium has 20G alternative.

[Blue Shark]

Wow who would've thought that flares could be the counter to heat seeking missiles?

[FireFromBehind]

Skill issue

[Solaire]

Harrier GR1 is relatively garbage, but hey you could be the hunter f.6 at 10.3!

[felixardyansyah]

Originally posted by Solaire:

Harrier GR1 is relatively garbage, but hey you could be the hunter f.6 at 10.3!

oof

[Cpt. Obvious]

Originally posted by Akagi:

You have an insane climb rate paired with an incredible acceleration. I barely have huge struggles if I spaceclimb with it and attack the enemies from above

80m/s at 10.0 isn't good most jet's out climb that completely stock.

[Cpt. Obvious]

Originally posted by Belmont:

Originally posted by Captain Clown:

Absolute trash. Missile is useless if a single flare is launched. too slow to be competitive. no radar, no missile warning complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ plane the 105D is better and it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash.

It is the classic case in which a person does not know how to use the sraam and the harrier. You have to learn to use something that is not entirely easy for a newbie. It is not the same as other jets. There are many guides about it, go and see those and you will see that you will never come here to breathe your frustration.

Ah yes because praying to god I fight someone without flares and willingly let's me get within 1 - 1.5 km to get a lock and fire is such an amazing strat. short ranged missle that struggles if any flares are launched the few jet's that are slower or preform at a similar pace pack so many flare's it's not even remotely funny go find a guide for me focusing on it's performance at 10.0 they all state the basic idea of "Hide in corner pray no one see's you wait for them to get so distracted that they can't fight back." you can't one v one, you can't clutch against anything but people without flare's. and if they have any level of attention to what's going on around them they just out run you, what are you going to do catch them?

[Necrozis]

I love how people cry PTW but the Premium fighters/tanks are of lesser ability than the ones you can grind out. But hey , freedom of speech right?

[FireFromBehind]

Originally posted by Captain Clown:

Originally posted by Akagi:

You have an insane climb rate paired with an incredible acceleration. I barely have huge struggles if I spaceclimb with it and attack the enemies from above

80m/s at 10.0 isn't good most jet's out climb that completely stock.

Not even close to true, stat cards lie 90% of the time. Harrier will outclimb everything unless fully uptired.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by FireFromBehind:

Originally posted by Captain Clown:

80m/s at 10.0 isn't good most jet's out climb that completely stock.

Not even close to true, stat cards lie 90% of the time. Harrier will outclimb everything unless fully uptired.

Only thing I own that can out climb a harrier is my Mig 23, the harrier is scary fast in a space climb, though then again so is the Mig. I've seen the premium draken beat it and thats a 9.7 so maybe not everything but super close to everything will lose to the harrier in a climb.

[Futuristic Hexagon]

Originally posted by JuX:

Originally posted by Smoked Turkey:

High G missiles on mig-21? What mig-21 are you playing, the premium mig-21S and the normal (Not Bis) mig-21 have awful missiles that can't pull more then ten gs

MiG-21SMT has R-60's that can pull 30G's. It's a 10.3 jet, but 10 br consists of 9.7-10.3's. The german Mig-21 also have R-60's and premium has 20G alternative.

The premium SPS-K at 10.0 has R-13M1s (guess they recently changed out the Ms for M1s, was confused there for a while). These are similar to the AIM-9J/P family, and is seen on the F-1, A-7D, and F-4F (early) at 10.3.

Then the Matra R550 Magic 1 seen on the A-5C is also seen on the F-8E(FN) (10.3), Jaguar A (10.3), Mirage IIIC, IIIE, and 5F (all 10.3).

The SMT is also R-60 equipped. Before that, only the Yak-38 and MiG-21SPS-K have ability to use it, and of those two, one of them is in essence an unbalancable brick of a plane.

Harriers do have great climb. I haven't used them, but SRAAMs are tricky things to use I understand. They're very short range and like every missile very susceptible to flares (at the games current state, I understand that's every missile.) But if the opponent has no flares, it's easily one of the deadliest missiles for them to run into!