Player levels

[maenoferren22]

So I have started noticing something... i was playing in a few games today with me at level six and a fair few of the blue being below ten, then my opposite numbers are on levels like 49, 75 and some on 100... i mean why, is the grind worth it that much, that you have to get your kills on newbies. now i love early war stuff and once i get to about rank 4 i will pack it in as all interest is lost. i would love to play early tanks permanently, but that wouldn't be fair on the newbies. so why cant there be a level system, a bit like rankings for players. Level 100's can slug it out in MkII's and BT's to their hearts content. As it stands some one at level 100 knows all the maps inside out whereas someone new doesn't meaning they can be hit from sniper spots (or through windows) . Totally not whingeing as i can take or leave this game. it just seems odd, or do people really have such a wish to progress they don't seem to care.
fear not i am in my bunker with my tin hat on waiting for the 'Get Good' comments or other random drivel people spout when such posts appear.

Update:
In hindsight my intital comment may read as a little aggressive, it was not my intention

Further update: Note to self.. stream of consciousness questions is not good on forums....
Further update: Some people on here are awesome- their answers make total sense... my initial question however does not! Feeling like a total numpty now!

[Vamilad]

Good players can teach you a lot about the game if you let them.

Positions, game flow, tactics.

Should the game be easier? Why? People can be noobs at any tier thanks to premiums. Only way you'll learn is by playing.

[Canadian Guitar]

You've already answered you own question/issue.

You want to play specific vehicles. Vehicles are what determines match making, not player level.

All player level does is show how much research someone has earned in their career, not their skill level.


Wanting to restrict BRs/vehicles based on player level is not a good idea. What if I at level 100, now want to play Naval instead of Ground? What about when a new tech tree comes out? I'm not allowed to play new content because I hit level 100 many years ago?

And yes, this is completely "whingeing" - and if you really feel the need to make a comment about being ready for the "drivel" when posts like these come up; then you would know the reasons why it is the way it is, and that your post is indeed pointless whining.

[maenoferren22]

Originally posted by Vamilad:

Good players can teach you a lot about the game if you let them.

Positions, game flow, tactics.

Should the game be easier? Why? People can be noobs at any tier thanks to premiums. Only way you'll learn is by playing.

Never said the game should be easier. i asked why top rank players were down in the low tiers?

[Vamilad]

Originally posted by maenoferren22:

Originally posted by Vamilad:

Good players can teach you a lot about the game if you let them.

Positions, game flow, tactics.

Should the game be easier? Why? People can be noobs at any tier thanks to premiums. Only way you'll learn is by playing.

Never said the game should be easier. i asked why top rank players were down in the low tiers?

Why? Could be they're playing with some friends, could be they're playing a tree they've never played before. Unlikely they're playing specifically for SL unless they own premiums at the tier. Maybe they want some simplistic action compared to the quick matches at high tier.

One of the best things about War Thunder is you can play across multiple eras. Sometimes I'll switch between high tier / low tier matches in the same session just so I don't get tunnel visioned playing against ATGMs / Helicopters / CAS.

[maenoferren22]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

You've already answered you own question/issue.

You want to play specific vehicles. Vehicles are what determines match making, not player level.

All player level does is show how much research someone has earned in their career, not their skill level.


Wanting to restrict BRs/vehicles based on player level is not a good idea. What if I at level 100, now want to play Naval instead of Ground? What about when a new tech tree comes out? I'm not allowed to play new content because I hit level 100 many years ago?

And yes, this is completely "whingeing" - and if you really feel the need to make a comment about being ready for the "drivel" when posts like these come up; then you would know the reasons why it is the way it is, and that your post is indeed pointless whining.

see mate you are the reason why i mentioned it... do you have to spit the dummy and throw a rant. it is not whining it was a genuine ask for information but based on previous comments other had made over the years i added the last bit. Never said you weren't allowed to play new content. I asked why level 100's were down playing with the newbs. i said i would be happy to play with other high rank players at the lower tiers. Thank you for the information on research, i did not know. I am a newb :)
Have a nice day.

[maenoferren22]

Originally posted by Vamilad:

Originally posted by maenoferren22:

Never said the game should be easier. i asked why top rank players were down in the low tiers?

Why? Could be they're playing with some friends, could be they're playing a tree they've never played before. Unlikely they're playing specifically for SL unless they own premiums at the tier. Maybe they want some simplistic action compared to the quick matches at high tier.

One of the best things about War Thunder is you can play across multiple eras. Sometimes I'll switch between high tier / low tier matches in the same session just so I don't get tunnel visioned playing against ATGMs / Helicopters / CAS.

yep thaT Makes sense.... cheers mate... as I said I am a newb... great helpful answer

[maenoferren22]

thanks @Vamilad... your anwer totally makes sense... never thought of it like that:) newb question asnwered

[The Quiet Guy]

Some people only play the WW2 era stuff and don't care about the more modern vehicles. Do that long enough and they're level 100 in a panzer 2. So what?

[maenoferren22]

Originally posted by Haytu2:

Some people only play the WW2 era stuff and don't care about the more modern vehicles. Do that long enough and they're level 100 in a panzer 2. So what?

Yeah totally get that mate,makes sense... your answer is me.... obviously head was up my *ss this evening, wasn't thinking properly, so it came out muddled.

[Izpak]

I'm a level 100 but I mainly play tanks.

I'm still in the lower BR brackets for some ground forces, mainly Italy and to a lesser extent China.

However my air trees are usually lacking behind my ground forces equivalents. I also most of the time am a free kill to a pilot who knows which end of their fighter has the bullets come out.

Do I have some higher BR planes? Yes. Do I have the skill or experience to use them? God no.

[maenoferren22]

Originally posted by SMASHING:

I'm a level 100 but I mainly play tanks.

I'm still in the lower BR brackets for some ground forces, mainly Italy and to a lesser extent China.

However my air trees are usually lacking behind my ground forces equivalents. I also most of the time am a free kill to a pilot who knows which end of their fighter has the bullets come out.

Do I have some higher BR planes? Yes. Do I have the skill or experience to use them? God no.

Cheers for the input mate, this was what i was after. I got up to (not sure) on the console, but had two years away and just come back onto a PC. So a relative newbie, and it is all still a bit weird and new. That makes total sense. Basically i could be level 100 player in a German tank, but would start again at a Russian low tier... Doh! head is well and truly up my own butt today. i would delete my original comments, but it might stop other people asking damn fool questions :)

[Corpse-Thing]

Originally posted by Vamilad:

Originally posted by maenoferren22:

Never said the game should be easier. i asked why top rank players were down in the low tiers?

Why? Could be they're playing with some friends, could be they're playing a tree they've never played before. Unlikely they're playing specifically for SL unless they own premiums at the tier. Maybe they want some simplistic action compared to the quick matches at high tier.

One of the best things about War Thunder is you can play across multiple eras. Sometimes I'll switch between high tier / low tier matches in the same session just so I don't get tunnel visioned playing against ATGMs / Helicopters / CAS.

Or are working a "new" tree.
(ie: They mained US, and are now moving on to Italy.)

[maenoferren22]

Originally posted by The Feast:

Originally posted by Vamilad:

Why? Could be they're playing with some friends, could be they're playing a tree they've never played before. Unlikely they're playing specifically for SL unless they own premiums at the tier. Maybe they want some simplistic action compared to the quick matches at high tier.

One of the best things about War Thunder is you can play across multiple eras. Sometimes I'll switch between high tier / low tier matches in the same session just so I don't get tunnel visioned playing against ATGMs / Helicopters / CAS.

Or are working a "new" tree.
(ie: They mained US, and are now moving on to Italy.)

CHEERS for the input. I was obviously just being dense, it makes total sense when you move nations or are playing with mates...

[Laigon ♥]

The other reason is just some people wanting a little change. I played a 1.3 air arcade last night just for the fun of it, only made 3k so the money isn't worth it for me but I did have fun flying around in early props.

Makes a nice change to go back to simpler times and also to replay vehicles that you maybe haven't used in years. It's the same with tanks, had a couple of games with those early german 20mm's just for a little fun.

Can get boring when you're constantly trying to spade the same vehicles every game.

[Lunovus]

New nations trees.

Researching recently added vehicles in lower ranks.
Using higher rank vehicles for that would lead to big research mali.

Part of the tech trees you have not researched yet (for me f.e. the blue water ships of some nations).

There is also a BP challenge requiring 10 kills with vehicles of all ranks.
One rank is 1. Rank 2 is another one.
If I want to finish that challenge, I have to use rank 1 & 2 vehicles.


Sealclubbing newbies is not gaining you much in terms of SL & RP.
So if you're not into stat-padding (some may be into it, but IMHO most are not), the reasons above make the most sense.

Apart from "for fun".
Not in the slaughtering newbies part, but enjoying the lower ranks vehicles part.