Counter/Solutions to KA-50 spam

[Uncle Tom]

In Ground RB the KA-50 is treated as a back up vehicle when it should be a reward for playing well. Top Tier needs to be balanced in some way in regards to helis.

Solutions-
*Spawning in helis cost more spawn points making it a "REWARD" not a backup vehicle
*Better spawn protection or cover
*Limit heli spawns or set a timer
*Make game modes/ official servers more diverse (eg: servers with or without CAS or just helis)
*Make ground RB "GROUND" only
*Do nothing and continue to make top tier an unbalanced one-sided calamity

Any other suggestions are welcome in comments

[Ģ◊иℤ◊⚡ℤ∀муpΛй]

Originally posted by Ol' Tom:

In Ground RB the KA-50 is treated as a back up vehicle when it should be a reward for playing well. Top Tier needs to be balanced in some way in regards to helis.

Solutions-
LIES &CRIMES

Any other suggestions are welcome in comments

git gud.

[Nenne.]

Originally posted by Ģ◊иŽФ⚡∀mηЯΛ¥:

Originally posted by Ol' Tom:

In Ground RB the KA-50 is treated as a back up vehicle when it should be a reward for playing well. Top Tier needs to be balanced in some way in regards to helis.

Solutions-
LIES &CRIMES

Any other suggestions are welcome in comments

git gud.

I just have to agree with this one..

[Uncle Tom]

"git gud", wow why didn't I think of that sooner. Also I forgot to mention, since they got rid of chat, there is no way to call out enemy helis Bearing and height to friendly SPAAS

[Herz]

Spawn Stormer HVM, watch KA50 drop flares and do a pathetic "drop while turning" evasion manoeuvre, yeet it, repeat.
Also works well with YAH64 and others.

[Kozi]

Originally posted by FA Herz:

Spawn Stormer HVM, watch KA50 drop flares and do a pathetic "drop while turning" evasion manoeuvre, yeet it, repeat.
Also works well with YAH64 and others.

Man could have picked ANY SAM to give as an example, yet he chose literally the worst one in the game.

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by Kozarsson:

Originally posted by FA Herz:

Spawn Stormer HVM, watch KA50 drop flares and do a pathetic "drop while turning" evasion manoeuvre, yeet it, repeat.
Also works well with YAH64 and others.

Man could have picked ANY SAM to give as an example, yet he chose literally the worst one in the game.

It has some small advantage at least as unlike the others the stormer wont set off the heli's radar warning receiver so the heli doesnt know a missile is coming unless they actually see it and even if they do it is immune to countermeasures

[Zeradus]

Originally posted by Kozarsson:

Originally posted by FA Herz:

Spawn Stormer HVM, watch KA50 drop flares and do a pathetic "drop while turning" evasion manoeuvre, yeet it, repeat.
Also works well with YAH64 and others.

Man could have picked ANY SAM to give as an example, yet he chose literally the worst one in the game.

That kind of highlights his point though. Even the worst SAM can counter them easily.................maybe if more people actually brought SPAA instead of leaving after 1 death there wouldn't be so many people crying about getting killed by aircraft/helicopters.

[Uncle Tom]

Originally posted by Zeradus:

Originally posted by Kozarsson:

Man could have picked ANY SAM to give as an example, yet he chose literally the worst one in the game.

That kind of highlights his point though. Even the worst SAM can counter them easily.................maybe if more people actually brought SPAA instead of leaving after 1 death there wouldn't be so many people crying about getting killed by aircraft/helicopters.

Your problem ties in to my problem, not enough skilled SPAA players.personally I have no problem dealing with 2 or 4 ka-50s. But because of how easy it is to get the heli by capping the first point. THE ENTIRE RUSSIAN TEAM SPAWNS KA-50 after someone kills them. I don't have enough Missiles for that many ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flies and they always camp our spawn. I mainly play top tier USA, I spend more time having to deal with the ka-50 than the enemy tanks. I hardly take out my abrams any more because it will just get destroyed by some noob in a ka50 after he capped the first point. I cant do anything because the m1a2 anti air round has a shorter max range than what the helis fly out to. Plus a majority of the maps are open fields with no cover. You are essentially punished for not spawning in SPAA at start of game. And dont get me started on the bugginess of the KA50 and its missiles.

[Blamite Delight]

use the ADATS, that big boy removes heli's

[Col. Cornbread]

Originally posted by Zeradus:

That kind of highlights his point though. Even the worst SAM can counter them easily.................maybe if more people actually brought SPAA instead of leaving after 1 death there wouldn't be so many people crying about getting killed by aircraft/helicopters.

KA-50, 10km missiles
Stormer 7km missiles, cant do ♥♥♥♥ if hes past that range
10.0 Roland based systems, 8km missiles, Cant do ♥♥♥♥ if he's past that range
Stinger Based systems, ~2-3km range (says 6km all aspect but the game is coded so you cant lock helis past 2-3km unless they are above a certain altitude), cant do ♥♥♥♥ if he's past that range

So only SPAA with 10km range can reliably take them down and there are several trees that don't have SPAA with ranges past 6km (And those are stingers so 2-3km vs helis)

The best non spaa to do it is on the same team as the KA-50

[Neckstabba]

Originally posted by Col. Cornbread:

Originally posted by Zeradus:

That kind of highlights his point though. Even the worst SAM can counter them easily.................maybe if more people actually brought SPAA instead of leaving after 1 death there wouldn't be so many people crying about getting killed by aircraft/helicopters.

KA-50, 10km missiles
Stormer 7km missiles, cant do ♥♥♥♥ if hes past that range
10.0 Roland based systems, 8km missiles, Cant do ♥♥♥♥ if he's past that range
Stinger Based systems, ~2-3km range (says 6km all aspect but the game is coded so you cant lock helis past 2-3km unless they are above a certain altitude), cant do ♥♥♥♥ if he's past that range

So only SPAA with 10km range can reliably take them down and there are several trees that don't have SPAA with ranges past 6km (And those are stingers so 2-3km vs helis)

The best non spaa to do it is on the same team as the KA-50

Exactly this is the problem. Nothing has the range to kill the Ka50.

Simple solution is to raise the Ka 50 to 11.0 and its fine. But that wont happen as the Ka 50 is literally p2w compared to other things at its br and Russia mains will say its "balanced" lmao.

Ka 50 vs 9.7 is something any Ka 50 owner is proud of.

[✌Husker54✌]

Stormer HVM , LVKV9040C . Both of these absolutely shag KA50 aids . The stormer is espesially effective against the 8km spammers they cant dodge the missile its too fast .